July 30, 2007
Gone to the Dogs

Everyone knows by now, Atlanta Falcons star quarter-back Michael Vick has been indicted for his role in the illegal dog-fighting sport. He and two other men were charged on July 17: Purnell A. Peace, 35, of Virginia Beach, and Quanis L. Phillips, 28, of Atlanta. Also charged was Tony Taylor, 34, another co-defendent. Taylor has pleaded guilty, and will testify about the whole dog fighting ring.

So, what are we to make of this? Vick certainly didn't need the money. And it isn't a racial thing--the dog fighting sport. It isn't a particularly black custom. One simply has to wonder, then, Why?

Men have pitted animals against each other, and men against other men, for millennia. It has been custom in nearly every culture in the world. It's something men do. Is it barbaric? Is it heathen? Or is it just what men do?

Vick is a professional football player. He's constantly up against other men, in a forceful, physically competitive way. Joe Namath, former NYJets quarter-back, once said (in Sports Illustrated, back in the '60's) that professional football was a school of brutality. Michael Mandelbaum repeated the same thoughts more recently, in his book, The Meaning of Sports (2004). Reviewer Pet Hamill says:

Warlike, nonlethal brutality is the essence of football. The line is the infantry, Mr. Mandelbaum says. The running backs are the cavalry. The backfield, especially the quarterback, is the artillery, "hurling deadly objects over the adversary's first line of defense." The quarterback throws the "long bomb" or is "blitzed" by the opposing defenders. Coaches (the models are Bear Bryant and Vince Lombardi) rule their teams as if they were George S. Patton-style generals.

from, Pete Hamill, NYT, June 9, 2004

If that's true, about brutality, then there is certainly nothing foreign to football in dog fights. And haven't we all heard the expression, "I got no dog in this fight"? A dog fight is a metaphor of any kind of contest. A dog fight is universal, archetypal contest.


Fighter dogs training their lethal skills on hogs, another
lovely custom: Hog dog rodeos

Ah, but it strikes Americans, Puritan-based American society, as ghastly. It is appalling to our senses, and makes us sick to even think of. And to think that people watch dogs kill each othe--for sport? For entertainment? For enjoyment? How could we sink so low!

I"m saying it isn't really all that low. It's what people do. All of us. We fight. It is the spirit of the race. We're fighting now in Iraq. Muslims slaughter each other on a daily basis, and are ready to slaughter non-Muslims as well. The world is a blood bath.

I'm saying the offense at dog fighting, or cock fighting (also illegal) is a bit misplaced. Liberals (like Senator Byrd who denounced dog fighting as "barbaric") advocate abortion, whole-sale. Liberals who stand up for animal rights sit down for the rights of the unborn. I know that sounds like an artifical juxtaposition for dramatic effect, but, it is nevertheless true. What's the different between slaughtering the unborn and watching dogs fight? For that matter, between boxing and dog fighting? What about that other sport, no holds barred fighting between men?


Japanese dog fighting

I don't share the moral outrage at dog fighting. I would never be involved, because I don't think it is healthy, psychologically. I don't think animals have souls, but I do think they have feelings. I would assume that people who like to see dogs fight have a psychological issues, therefore. But then, wouldn't that have to apply to football, boxing, wrestling, and many other things?

Blood and cruelty seem very much a part of our daily diet down here on earth. Violence is par for the course.

And yes, lots of people like having a pit bull on a leash because it is a sign of strength, meanness, cruelty--and above all--power. But that's basically juvenile. It is vicarious expression of a very scared, insecure person, no doubt. Dog fighting is vicarious cruelty. That's about the long and short of it. The people involved may seem to be perfectly normal people. Many sex offenders, molesters, and rapists do too.

I'm just not sure what the correct assessment of this situation is. Vick was part of an illegal gaming operation, the key word being "illegal." Enough said, really. Whatever the psychological evaluation of the case, the bottom line is that dog-fighting is illegal. Vick was into it. He knew it. There was no misunderstanding. For that, he is amply guilty. Just how morally wrong dog-fighting might be is simply another issue.

Vick gambled with his career. He lost. He is a careless man, morally. The behavior around this dog ring is vice-like. Addictive. This is a hidded element, certainly, but a very strong one. What appalls you in the beginning can turn around and become fascinating and highly desirable. Tobacco and alcohol certainly work that way. Like most vices, these are acquired tastes. The first natural reaction is physical revulsion. But, once one becomces acclimated (deceived?), it all becomes pleasurable.

Professional athletic managers and other players are saying 'go easy' on Vick. What is the point of that? Naturally, NAACP leaders are saying the same thing. (That point is obvious.)

They didn't go easy on Paris Hilton. She did time. Lots of it. (Twenty-three days of it.) Most "minorities" and illegal Mexicans in LA don't do more than two days for a DUI, if that. Some are released the same day. Go easy on Vick? Why? The people want their star quarter-back? He's black? He misunderstood something? What would be the reason to "go easy?"

Finally, I'd say there are sports, then there are abused sports. Men love contest. Women too. There have to be healthy contests. I think some are far more healthy than others. While I have compared footbal with dog fighting, there really isn't a comparison. Football is not a fight to the death. True football, true sport, does not intend injury on the opponent. It's not about blood. It is a match of skills and strength, not injury. War is war. Sports may seem to be similar, and every liberal would see any physical contest as 'evil,' but this is superficial. I realize liberals don't want men to be men, but men are men. Sports is essentially immune to emasculation.

Dog fights do not bring about healthy human relations, to my knowledge. Human athletes find all kinds of encouragement in human relations, especially team athletes, but also solo players, like runners, vaulters, etc. I would never say that competing against another person for the mastery is a particularly healthy activity, but it can be very productive. The antithesis of the Christian spirit perhaps, an athletic competition can bring a man out of the ghetto. Unfortunately, without true religion, he brings the ghetto with him.

Mandelbaum's book likes to blame religion for the whole phenomenon of competition, the whole inspiration of war. I say no, true religion is the attempt to harness the lethal spirit of dominance. True relgion seeks to uplift the fallen, not to knock people down. It is false religion that aggrandizes the killer, such as we see in modern Islam.


Posted by David Yeagley at July 30, 2007 06:02 PM
Comments

I'd like to throw you in a ring with 1000 savage pit bulls..... see how you like it.... People make a choice to fight.... dogs don't... and for us, the "higher" being to choose to train them for this is very barbaric. You obviously have little compassion for animals....What is your ethnic background?

Posted by: elizabeth morris on December 2, 2007 10:49 PM

Not just modern Islam, but historic Islam. Islam was birthed in war and conquest and it has always relied on those two elements as fundamental tools for advancing dar al-Islam. To change that is to change Islam at its most fundamental.

Posted by: William Meisheid on August 1, 2007 11:43 AM

The controversary lies in the alteration of the
dogs natural behavior. Dogs seldom fight to the death or to irreparable injury. One postures, the other either submits or nips on the snout and runs. Vick supported the alteration of the dogs behavior to go extremely beyond any normal aggressive tendencies.
That is where their sickness is. They modified the canine's self defense mechanism to become offensive. However, nothing surprises me from a culture that whines, postures, shoots eachother in the ass driving by at 25mph, and rhymes about how tough they are.

Posted by: Quinn on July 31, 2007 01:03 PM

The worst of the animal fighting is in the Third World. In fact, fights to the death among men is still happens in remote places.

Liberal "Freudian" interpreters like to think it's all about latent homosexuality. That's based on the idea that sex is basically an attack, doing something to someone. This would include mayhem, and cannibalism.

See, we can go anywhere we want with this. In the ancient world (and even in remote places in the modern world), human sacrifice was common.

The Spanish bull fight is a take on the Mediterranean "sport" of animal sacrifice. Why, you can't just kill an animal and eat. It has to be a religious act of somekind.

I guess we inevitably feel guilty for killing--anything. For any reason.

Posted by: David Yeagley on July 31, 2007 10:50 AM

Another exellant articule. In the top ten for sure. I helped raise and condition Gamecocks here in CA. with some family members in the 80's were it is quite legal to do so as long as you are not caught wagering on them.Louisiana is now the only hold out for legal wagering I believe after Az. NM.Missouri and OK. recently banned it.

"As long as the
Almighty has permitted
intelligent men, created
in his likeness to fight in
public and kill each
other while the world
looks on approvingly, it's
not for me to deprive
the chickens of the same
privilege."
Abraham Lincoln

Posted by: Phidoux on July 31, 2007 09:31 AM

I do also include that element of vice. Dog fighting involves a vicarious blood lust, seems to me.

Very good point about the "skill" in sports. And the "intelligence."

Posted by: David Yeagley on July 31, 2007 08:59 AM

Yes, Vick gambled with his career and now needs to pay the price. I do not understand the need or desire of people to watch dumb animals fight. What makes true sports like football, baseball, basketball and others so enjoyable is that there is intelligence and skill involved.

Regardless of physical ability, the intelligent and physically able athlete always comes out on top.

Vick was an amazing athlete but the good teams always out smarted him, leaving the Falcons always short of winning consistently.

The love of brutality for the sake of brutality as in dog fighting or cock fighting is a sign of the intelligence (lack of) of the viewer.

Posted by: Michael Valverde on July 31, 2007 08:50 AM

anyone with a brain knows that the roman gladiatorial spectacle had a drug effect beyond just drugs. there is a religious and spiritual aspect to watching the very gears of life and death clashing.
before televisions replaced fireplaces, seeing real live men fighting each other instead of actually fighting for yourself was an indulgence of the wealthy debauched middle class in rome just as the Aztecs used to cut the feet off POW enemy officers and make them fight to the death against aztec cadets to blood them.
vick is like an african prince from a jungle mentality that needs a dog to fight for him so that he can get off on the godlike view of death.To play with his captive and servant. there's nothing at all common about that.
abortion and other hidden murders have no gratutous aspect, that's giving them too much credit. Vick is at least athletically talented but a dubass power junky because he never mastered himself and let God into his reaction to money.
Talent can only get you so far, character is what keeps you there. His culture is flawed, its like a hole in a bucket. no matter how much money and power he could grab it kept widening the breech and his pee brain couldnt give up the power trip, so he lost everything in a society that can still demand a modicum integrity sometimes.

Posted by: P2 on July 30, 2007 11:08 PM
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