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“Never before, unprecedented in American history, for the federal government to line up against the Roman Catholic Church,” said Catholic League head Bill Donohue.

Already Archbishop Timothy Dolan has spoken out against the law and priests around the country have mobilized, reading letters  from the pulpit. Donohue said Catholic officials will stop at nothing to put a stop to it.

“This is going to be fought out with lawsuits, with court decisions, and, dare I say it, maybe even in the streets,” Donohue said.

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Mr. Donahue is either ignorant of, or dismisses those in past American history who saw the RCC as an enemy of the Republic. He has been rattling his sword for decades.

Of course, all prophetic things considered this is a great open door for apostate Protestants and Romanists to clasp hands.

From a political point of view any American should be aghast at the federal government infringing upon religion and religious institutions. Congress shall make NO LAW respecting an establishment of religion, OR prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

Obama has no idea what he is about to face. "Mother" will bring him down in a heart beat. She brought communism down. Obama would be tomorrow's toast and jam for breakfast.
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“The Catholic hierarchy seems to be playing a cynical game of chicken and they don’t seem to care that the health and well being of millions of American woman are what’s at stake here,” National Abortion Rights Action League President Andrea Miller said."

Not side with the RCC, or any other religious institution, but since when is a birth control pill a matter of health? It's a matter of chosen sexual activity, not health. What church, or any business, should be forced to hand out pills to make it easy for people to have unprotected sex?
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Of course I agree that the decision to have "sex" per cey is an individual decision ! However the churches or businesses would not be actually handing out pills or condoms- that would be pharmacies job.  Since over 95% of American catholics both men and women admited in various surveys that they use some kind of "contraceptive" I do not see what the big issue is with the Catholic upper head honchos???  It seems like a case of hyprocrisy to me after all the child molestations and child rapes their Priests and Bishops and Arch Bishops have done thru the decades and then tried to cover up from the friggin POPE himself on down!  -- ON another note though can you imagine how many millions of children we would be having to keep up on welfare today if CONDOMS AND BIRTH CONTROL PILLS were totally made ILLEGAL in this country??!!  Personally I don't buy into the PAPACY position that if a man uses a condom he is committing an abortion,lol.  --- I think the Catholic establishment does have the right to regulate within - and that they should have already passed the rules and papal bulls laws that their PRIEST, Bishops, Arch Bishops, Cardinals, and even the Pope himself should "VOLUNTARILY Agree to be Castrated when sworn in to their vows of office!!  That alone should cut out the child rape-sodomies they been committing by the millions over the decades- and after all they not supposed to be using that "thing" except to urinate to begin with right???
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Hypocrites in the Catholic Church have zero to do with the first amendment, no? Every denomination has hypocrites, has members in name only, nominal members, have people who even outright war within their own churches. None of that has anything to do with the federal government telling religious organizations they have to park their doctrines or teachings and do whatever the fed states. In this case, who the heck is Obama to be telling anybody what they can or cannot do? He's the POTUS (ineligibly usurping the office), not the Congress. The White House has zero authority in this matter. It is a crime Congress is not telling Obama to mind his business and allow Congress to do their work and make the laws. Of course, the foolish voted Obamacare in without even reading the bill.

Ultimately this could go back to the politics thread. For me, from the religious viewpoint, Obama will be backed down by the RCC. Even changing his position to throwing this on the backs of insurance companies makes no difference. He doesn't have that authority either, and many insurance companies are Catholic owned, not to mention RCC institutions which insure their own employees. So he is still locking horns with Rome and he is going to get put to the mat for it. His arrogance will be his undoing.

Sure there is great hypocrisy in the RCC. She is, after all, the Mother of abominations who has fornicated with the kings of the earth (Rev. 17). Still, she hasn't been around for 1500 years bowing to rulers without working to unseat them. In this case, she WILL unseat Obama if he persists in attacking her.
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The issue isn't the pharmacies, either. The RCC and other religious organizations against abortion would be paying the pharmacist to hand out the pills.
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