Is this satire? If so, well done!
Posted by Brian Link at May 31, 2008 09:53 PMNigger Nigger Nigger. Sticks and stoned can break my bones but names can never hurt me. Nigger Nigger Nigger
Posted by Nitram at March 19, 2008 07:38 PMWe should ban all books that use the word "nigger" in a derogatory context.
That would make everyone happy, right?
Mark Twain's writings might get to stay, but the writings of Karl Marx and Frederick Engels would definitely have to go.
Posted by Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit at December 1, 2006 12:13 AMCosmo is half Italian.
Any self respecting Italian, not looking to sell DVD's would have called the late for the show, disruptive black hecklers--"melanzanas"--or "molan-yawns!"
That's what the Italians called blacks when they saw them in America for the first time. The blacks reminded them of eggplants.
Is that racist?
Posted by "Greetings, my son!" at November 30, 2006 08:46 PMMark,
most people want leaders to tell them what to do, and what to think. It's called "pop culture."
concha wrote, in regard to AIDS: You can't pin it on honkey--it is the so-called black leadership and entertainment shills in rap 'music' that are to blame.
Actually, I think the problem is entirely the fault of the person who has AIDS, with two exceptions: people who get it through blood transfusions, and people who get it from cheating spouses. Otherwise, the way to avoid getting AIDS is well-understood and requires only a little common-sense preventative action. Let's not continue on this path where whenever something goes wrong in the underclass it's because some teacher or leader or government bureaucrat fell short. Most bad things that happen to people were forseeable and preventable with basic common sense precautions. This is especially true of the kinds of self-imposed miseries that the underclass suffers from.
Posted by Mark at November 30, 2006 03:11 PMIn fact when I was in St Louis my friends and i were called racists by a few of the street thugs. One of the guys was a chinese guy. Go figure. almost got into a couple fights down there. Just walk away is the best thing to do with these chimpanzees.
rap culture is a death culture.
Mark,
Exactly nigga! I have no problemo calling myself cracker, honkey, dago, wop, greaser, etc..
Infact I call myself nigger sometimes becuase I got calabria blood in me thats mixed with slaves from the roman days. If you saw me you would understand. My girlfriend says I look like a refined light black. Im a beautiful greasy nigger wop! I love being that! Hahaha!
Concha if they started using contraception and stopped screwing everything that walsk and plopping aids crack babies out then they would be ok. Instead thy stick it in any hole available. White women preferably. we need a population die off in order for any of the good children of the future to have a future. I have a hard time being compassionate to these chimps. I respect wild beasts more than scum humanoids.
All very interesting comments here.
Hoever, the fake outrage over the n word should not distract us from the real plight of black America--AIDS. It is currently at catastrophic levels--does anyone care? AIDS is the leading cause of death among black Americans 18-45. If this was happening in white America, it would be daily news, a topic of discussion 24/7. There would be news specials devoted to the topic every week, and panels at all major universities.
As Americans we must discuss this catastrophy, because they are our fellow citizens, our neighbors, through thick and thin.
So who's to blame?
You can't pin it on honkey--it is the so-called black leadership and entertainment shills in rap 'music' that are to blame.
Hey Oprah--has the cat got your tongue?
My take on the power of the word "nigger" is that blacks generally feel inside that they are not as good as whites, and when a white person says "nigger" to a black then that white person is intentionally saying, in effect, "you are inferior to me". And that combination of both feeling inferior to another person, and then having that person purposely rub it in your face as an insult, is truly infuriating.
As a white person, and a racist white person at that, I do feel personally that whites are on average better than blacks in many ways. I admit it. So if a black person were to call me a "cracker" or some other derogatory term, it would not bother me in the same way that "nigger" bothers blacks who feel inferior to whites. I would recognize the aggressive intention, but it wouldn't sting because I feel inside that the intended derogatory commentary on whites isn't true. It comes off as the powerless, feeble rantings of a weak person.
If blacks genuinely felt that they were truly equal to or better than whites, then "nigger" would not bother them like it does. They'd shrug it off. That's the reason that the ethnic slurs of the past like "dago" don't hurt the way they did then, when the newcomers genuinely felt inside that they weren't as good as the natives.
Posted by Mark at November 30, 2006 02:09 PMAddendum:
"Nigger," as used by Huck Finn, was not necessarily the pejorative it is today, but refered to a black slave. Obviously its use a pejorative evolved as a distinction between literate freedman and illiterate slave, or some similar stereotypical distinction.
"Nigger" is most likely a linguistic shift, possibly out of the Corwall dialect (to which the Black dialect owes it origins in English) that was common among the "overseers" as they, the first slaves, began to regain their independence from indentured service and time spent in the fields and on the plantations. As fewer from southern England emigrated to the Colonies as indentured servants, a new source of labor needed developing in the 16th century and thus was born African slave labor (from different tribes, with different cultures and languages). "Nigger" has its antecedency in "negre," which of course gives "negroe." Not too much of a linguistic shift is required.
Posted by SlimReed at November 30, 2006 12:22 PMGrayfoot, this is as close as you've come to lying, regarding me personally. This is your opinion, and it is far from fact. You are stating it like it is. Therefore, it is very close to lying.
Also, you obviously don't know what a conservative is, let alone a neo-conservative.
Tom, I encourage people not to repond to you, because I usually delete your posts. But in this case, let me say, you have given a non-thinking, superficial response to "names" given to various ethnic groups. You may be right in that they seem to have come from the white perspective. I don't know that that is entirely historically demonstrable, however.
Indian tribes in America each have half a dozen different names, for example. Names other tribes called them, different names different European "tribes" called them, names they call themselves, etc.
I don't know the origin of "spic." I shall have to research it. "Wop," for instance, was short for "without papers." It was used for Italian immigrants who were generally from slums of Naples and the like. America happened to be create by white people. You can say that these then are all "white" words for others.
But this is narrow. Have you looked into other countries or other ethnicities, and what they have called white people?
Grabbers, robbers, fat takers, they're all about negative character, not about appearance. I think darker people have always admired the way the white man looks. Certainly, dark people have been fascinated with the appearance.
But the character impressions of the white man have been negative.
Now. What does "nigger" depict? If you say appearance, I say that cannot be all it depicts. I'll have to write an op-ed on this. Clearly, no one is touching the historical etymology. As I said, all "names" are partials, and in that sense, denigrating, unless that partial is something everyone admires and wants.
Nick-names are always discriptive, it seems.
It is not the word that offends, but the listener who gives meaning to the word. Words by themselves are nothing but intonations of the voice or graphic representations on a page. It is the listener that gives meaning to a word. Here's a word: pasibo. Give it meaning.
There was a time when "cracker" had a specific intended meaning, derived from an action of Appalacian farmers. My own grandmother once knocked "a white woman" to the ground for calling her mother a dago, and her brother nearly until he died would drop anyone who uttered the word. They gave "dago" meaning (as well as "wop," "greaser," "garlic eater," among others). Most ethnicities by assimilation cease giving meaning to pejoratives. Yes, they understand that they are an attempt at insult by the ignorant, but without meaning the uttered pejorative has no effect. By my and my children's generations, "wop," et. al., have only a historical significance for our family.
"Pasibo," Russian for "thank you."
Posted by SlimReed at November 30, 2006 10:49 AMhey Tom! Eat lead ya "victim"! Your a worm and all your spinless drools can disapear and wed all be better off. How can anyone be considered poo and downtrodden in this country? Youve got it freakin easy. My Italina Grandpa worked right with the blacks and was fine with them and they with them. Loved each other. These new blacks are the niggers and their culture is a nasty scumbag culture. Nasty and vile. Seedy and lacking love. You lack love in your life, Tom. Its obvious.
Posted by ecology at November 30, 2006 10:15 AMWait and see how good a 'prophet' I am. I predict that after these 2 gentlemen get recompensated with a large chunk of change that they will say 'Let bygones be bygones', but not until the greenbacks are in their back pocket.
Posted by Trailboss49 at November 30, 2006 09:15 AMThe N word as percieved by blacks when said by Whte people is considered a dehumanization form of property. Thus when it is used by Mark Twain in Huck Finn the book is banned. However when the word is used by Blacks as in ONeil's Emperor Jones performed by Communist Dupe Paul Robeson it means dope. The word is used 29 times in that play and I doubt it is performed anymore.
Posted by Beakerkin at November 30, 2006 07:21 AMIt was all about selling DVD's!
Posted by "Greetings, my son!" at November 30, 2006 01:19 AMN***** is a creation of the wh*te man. He invented the word, he owns it.
The same goes for sp*c, k*ke and r*dskin.
All are based in bigoted, racist thought.
Little wonder that these words are so prevalent on this particular slice of wh*test americana.
Happy wallowing!
The word is offensive. This is obvious to any and all with a post sixth grade education. Let's not pretend it isn't. To philosophize about it, dance around it, to defend it's use in this context is nothing more than conservative propagnda. Call it what it is please and on to the next topic.
I find it a bit much to make Michael Richads, aka Kramer go through the motions. The African American or I'm sorry, negro to you neo-cons, well they mean well but one man cannot and will not make up for all of America's racism. He can't and he won't, no matter how much he may want to play the martyr now, for his career I might add.
On the other hand it's just as clueless and perhaps even reprihensable for the conservative to whittle this argument down to just word, a two syllable word, uttered by human lips, a sound uttured, as if it had no historical or contextual significance.
Please.
You are only being selectively blind to not acknowledge this angry tirade by Kramer, the references to hangings, to death, to forks stuck up arses? These are all Kramer's words not mine.
Oh yes, and the word Nigger was uttered several times, on purpose, with every purpose to offend and hurt.
You Yeagley cannot understand what it is to be called this, you who are hardly considered Indian really, at least by many of your peers. Oh you talk a good game, speak of being "different" with 'dark hair" is it? I think I read you say you felt darker?
You and others of your ilk can hardly understand what it might feel to be truly different. You are "white" for all practical purposes. You are only "different" to those who are without any pigment whatsoever. To another Indian, especially in Lawton, Walters, Cache, Indiahoma, OKC, well, you are as white as the rest.
For you to speak about such a hurtful word with any relevance is laughable. You have no reference point. You speak of things you don't understand.
Beak, either here, or on the forums, you I think might be able to articulate for us what exactly is so "end of the world" offensive about the word nigger. I have my suspicions. I think it's something far beyond the word.
That's why I resent the emphasis on the word. What does it MEAN? What is it that it represents, that's so terrible offensive?
They are giving this word a very, very unnatural significance. This is distorting reality for everyone. This is criminal in itself.
The terrible ones, the scorners, they that watch for iniquity--"that make a man an offender for a word...and turn aside the just for a thing of nought," are these conscious-less attorneys? Isaiah 29:21
I will not idolize a word. I acknowledge that there is one word, one name to be kept holy.
I idolize no man, nor his notions. Perhaps I idolize the idea of free will. I would error, somewhat, in this, perhaps. I will not be dictated to. THAT is fascism. I will not have my conscience controlled by someone else's "feelings." THAT is slavery.
So, Beak, the floor is yours. We may have to move this to a forum. These blogs get archived...
Posted by David Yeagley at November 29, 2006 10:04 PM
Of course if Richard used the dreadful words in a rap song.....
Posted by Beakerkin at November 29, 2006 08:14 PMBlacks against the world, and winning.
I can watch Sienfield over and over again, Kramer is ok in my books. He was at a comedy theater, I'm sure it was for adults only. These two "boys" I'm sure hackled other entertainers, this one just happen to be not black! If it were a black person shouting back at them they would have held their sides in laughter. Normally we don't go around calling anyone "Nigger" we know better, but this was comedy theater, it should not be taken so offensively by these black people.
I bought a CD about an Indian Comedian for my brother, this guy Drew Lacqpa is funny as heck, and thru out the whole thing all he did was make fun of US Indians. I still laugh third time viewing it. These young men should be banned from the club, they could do it to anybody now.
On the news it showed the line of people going into the club, and it was mostly black, they were going in for the jokes. Why do we have to treat them so tenderly. Most care nothing for other races, they can't tell me they see no difference. I see no reason for an apology.
CM
Posted by comanchemoon at November 29, 2006 08:06 PMDoctor,whats your take on the 'acting white'' phrase blacks use? Did you think it falls into the realm of ''nigger'' (jeez,that is a harsh sounding word)
Posted by Johnnymac at November 29, 2006 08:03 PMNadine, hope you don't mind, but I edited out the lying words of the liars. There is no advantage in quoting a lie, unless one is in court, before a judge. Quoting a lie is repeating it, giving it more legs, and validating the liar.
Your point is quite clear, of course. And, as I did say in the blog, No one wants anyone's feelings hurt. Not if they've really been hurt.
Dick Gregory said that the black man was going to change that system where a white man could destory a black man with a single word, nigger. When that system was changed, there weren't going to be any more niggers.
Nice thought, if the word "nigger" had no meaning. But, you see, no Negro leaders will come out and define it for us. What are the changes in "black" people that will result from the magical elimination of the word "nigger" from the language?
Does the word nigger have only to do with skin color? I seriously doubt it.
Posted by David Yeagley at November 29, 2006 07:44 PMHeres that word again. I can never understand why blacks insist on calling each other this and then take offense at whites using it. How many whites take offense when blacks use with each other and more over,why don't whites or more precisely white liberals take offense when blacks accuse each other of ''acting white''? Which is what balcks to do each other when they feel one of their number is trying to get an education and/or succeed in the world. "Acting white''. think about that for a moment. On one hand it could be construde as a perjoritive or as an admission of white supremacy over blacks. however used,its as ignorant a thing to think and say as is the word ''nigger''.
Posted by Johnnymac at November 29, 2006 05:50 PMFunny, the first thing I thought of when I saw this article was that it was meant for Dr. Al Carroll & Brent Michael Davids over at indianz.com, in response to the following that they posted about you, David:
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"I just think it is neurotic and preposterous to make the sky fall because somebody says "nigger," or any other one single word. It is ludicrous, in fact. (Posted by David Yeagley at November 21, 2006 10:41 PM)"
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Myself, I trust neither one b/c of their lying from the get go about your being adopted, which is a lie.
That said, there is a point about being sensitive about how others preferred to be addressed, and that it is a hallmark of getting along & making peace. On that note, I agree with him.
Still, Dr. Yeagley also has a good point about how the person determines whether or not s/he will be hurt by words alone, which is good in THEORY, but not practical in reality IMHO, as humans are affected by what is said about him/her. On that score, no matter how hard one tries to a-p-p-e-a-r unaffected, words do hurt. Thus, I agree that one should be sensitive to others on how to address the issue.
Thoughtfully, Nadine
Why dont we hear more about the Jesse Petersons of the world Doc?
Posted by ecology at November 29, 2006 04:33 PM"Well, that makes us all niggers, huh?"
Niggers, Niggas, Nizzles.
Now there's variations on the term.... its out of step to use plain old "nigger" anymore.... Uncool....
What an odd turn of events eh?
Posted by Hunter Pieper at November 29, 2006 04:29 PMI suppose the word "nigger" means everything that the Negro feels uncomfortable with about himself, inner and outer.
Well, that makes us all niggers, huh?
Yeah, this is all about word power and word play.
Putting a price on words. That's the liberal game. It is utterly childish.
I was taught, as a little kid, "Sticks and stones may breack my bones, but words can never hurt me." I guess that affected me the rest of my life. I'm not saying I don't have feelings that can be hurt, but I cannot be controlled by what someone else thinks of me. Not ultimately. I will not give that kind of power to another person.
I will not enslave myself. Not wholly.
It seems to me that is what the Negro has done to himself, or, I should say, this has been done to him, by white liberals. They have enslaved him anew. Continually.
Posted by David Yeagley at November 29, 2006 04:05 PM"But, the partials are what usually hook the eye, or the sense. We're all made up of a lot of details, inner and outer. To isolate one outstanding feature, inner or outer, and refer to the person as that thing, maybe that's the basis of the offese--unless of course, the isolated trate is something valued by all.."
Indeed it is the nebulous portion of the character that can be manipulated for some underlying gain.
Wasn't this what classic liberalism was supposed to combat? to help people grow out of victumhood? Instead they've suceeded at making a cottage industry of fostering victumization by flaming the fire of a few weightless yet symbolic words. Ah, the power of words.
There seems to be a tremendous attraction present tempting to both sides, the victum on one side and the victumizer on the other.
What do you reckon?
Posted by Hunter Pieper at November 29, 2006 03:13 PMI want to know what those dolts are complaiing about. They are dressed better than me and look elite and well off. if not wealthy than close to it. im under the impression they are not poo and downtrodden.
Posted by ecology at November 29, 2006 03:03 PMwant to go into the sports/athlete realm in the universities? I know that realm intimately. Its disgusting. felonous in many respects.
Posted by ecology at November 29, 2006 03:00 PMLets go there doc! I just cant stand these "victims". They arent warriors they are worms.
Posted by ecology at November 29, 2006 02:56 PMI'll have to write mine own psychological essay on this. I have never, and I don't think I would ever, call someone a "racial" name intending to deeply hurt. Why would anyone do that?
I think a name is a partial of some kind. It is a description of some isolated, but perhaps obvious element. It can be character or appearance. It is just partial. It isn't the whole man or whole person.
But, the partials are what usually hook the eye, or the sense. We're all made up of a lot of details, inner and outer. To isolate one outstanding feature, inner or outer, and refer to the person as that thing, maybe that's the basis of the offese--unless of course, the isolated trate is something valued by all..
But all have to have equal access to that trait, or somebody's going to be jealous, left out, and "wronged." Ha, ha!
Posted by David Yeagley at November 29, 2006 02:32 PM"So, will there be another 'word' controversy? Let's see, spic? Greaser?"
I think more long the lines of "undocumented worker" or some such and anything else will be deemed hate speech.
Maybe they'll one day be upgraded to "Undocumented Voter" or "Undocumented Citizen"?? Who knows....
by then you'll be jailed for writing spic or Greaser, or Beaner! So watch out Doc!
Posted by Hunter Pieper at November 29, 2006 02:20 PMSo, will there be another 'word' controversy? Let's see, spic? Greaser?
I have to confess, I'm drawn to the issue, deeply. Why are certain words so powerful, so "destructive?" Where does their meaning come from? Who determines it? What is it?
Freudian issues are present in the matter, of course. Shall we go there?
Posted by David Yeagley at November 29, 2006 01:58 PMThere's a new victum in town:
He's called the Mexican!
Posted by Hunter Pieper at November 29, 2006 01:55 PMwell doc their is a culture now too where the black men impregnate the white woman. They scheme it too. I know my girlfriend was impregnated by one through intimidation and scheming when she was 19. She came from a very innocent upbringing and went to college and had really no skills to fend off the scheming assault. You know how woman trap the man into having a baby. well its the opposite with them. They are spineless sacks of [EDITED]. I want the ones that arent cultured into the society to be wiped off the face of the earth. They are wimpy turds. Brown like [EDITED]. Now the ones like jesse peterson are a whole differnt story. I honor them. But you know what They aint nothing Im white and she loves me. ALL of me! Hahaa!
Posted by ecology at November 29, 2006 10:25 AM