In July, 2012, I was interviewed by Sally Jacobs of the Boston Globe. Jacobs published her piece “Elizabeth Warren’s family has mixed memories about heritage” on September 16 (that would be Rosh Hashanah), nearly two weeks ago. I discovered it, without being notified, on September 25 (that would be Yom Kippur).
The subject I was interviewed about was being Indian in Oklahoma in the 1960′s. The purpose, as I understood it from Ms. Jacobs, was for me to give an account of my personal experience, and that of my older brother Fred, so that she could have more insight into the experience of Elizabeth Herring Warren Mann. Elizabeth was in the class of my older brother, two years ahead of me. We all went to Northwest Classen High School in Oklahoma City. A professional journalist, Ms. Jacobs wanted the advantage of first hand sources.

Elizabeth Herring Warren Mann, smooth operator, successful Democrat.
I spoke an length with Ms. Jacobs, at least twice, on the telephone. I also exchanged a number of significant emails with her. I’d not been interviewed personally in this way on this topic. Since my older brother Fred has passed in 2000, I was the sole resource on what it was like to be Indian in Oklahoma City, at Northwest Classen.
Ms. Jacobs was the kindest, most sympathetic inquirer one could ever hope to encounter in the professional field. The tone and tenor of her voice bespoke a wonderful warmth, sincerity, and genuine purpose. The nature of her questions indicated her intuitive understanding of ethnicity (she being Jewish) and her candid desire to know the truth. Or, so it seemed to me.
I revealed details I haven’t spoken of in decades. I mentioned an article written about me in the school news paper after I had performed the Rubenstein piano concerto with the Oklahoma City Symphony. (This was in 1965, some months after I had turned 14. I actually won the contest when I was 13, after only three years of piano study.) The headline read: “Prodigy Runs the Gamut from Tom-tom to Bach.” The article contained a completely fabricated joke about my Comanche mother–which I hotly protested.
I and my older brother were constantly teased for being Indian. We were outstandingly talented, in many ways, and the fact that we were Indian seemed to dramatize our personae. We were targeted. I usually ignored it. I was called “black boy” (I think because of my being the only kid with black hair) growing up until the year just before 1965.) After one of my performances with the symphony, a wealthy donor came up to me and asked, “Are you Japanese?” People simply could not conceive of an American Indian playing classical piano. It was too out of place.
My older brother Fred was not so accommodating. He was in physical fights, often, from being teased. “Red Eagle,” they said was his real name. Fred Yeagley, minus the “F” and the “y’s.” They said my parents had changed his name!
These, and many, many other experiences, in detail, I shared with Sally Jacob of the Boston Globe. I really felt I had contributed to the message she intended to bear.
Sally Jacobs, Boston Globe
It so happens, she quoted four sentences from me, on the last page of her 7-page article. The little information she referenced contains some inaccuracies, as well, I’m sorry to say:
David Yeagley, whose mother was Comanche, said that he and his brother Fred, who was a class behind Warren, were routinely teased for their dark hair and skin. When fellow members of the football team did not feel like playing on a hot day, “they’d say, ‘Fred, do a rain dance. Do a few steps for us,’ ” Yeagley said of his brother, who died in 2000.
“Fred did not like that, and he was in fights every other day. Why would you ever bring up being an Indian if you didn’t have to? You’d just get teased or ridiculed,” said Yeagley. “If you were an Indian woman, you were thought of as an easy mark.”
Let me correct the misinformation:
1) Fred and Elizabeth were in the same class, 1967. I was in the class of 1969, two years later. I was of course explicit in these simple details. No reason to be unclear.
2) Fred had dark hair and eyes, but he was more fair complexioned. I was the tanned one. (My younger brother and sister are darker than I. That’s the way it goes sometimes in breed offspring.)
3) “Why would you ever bring up being an Indian if you didn’t have to?” I don’t remember saying this quite so. If I did, it was not of myself or my other brother. I, particularly, looked obviously Indian, more even than Fred. We couldn’t hide it if we wanted to. And we never wanted to. We were not ethnic chauvinists, but, we weren’t ashamed, either. I may have made that “didn’t have to” remark in reference to white kids who may have been part Indian, as family lore would have it, as in the case of Elizabeth Warren, but didn’t claim it, lest they be teased somehow. With the Yeagley brothers as an example, who’d want more of that? Since they were all quite fractional, with no visible indications, it was terribly easy to not be Indian.
4) Since there were no Indian girls at Northwest Classen that anyone knew anything about, no Indian girls who wanted anyone to know they may have been some fraction of Indian underneath all that blonde hair and blue eyes, I don’t know what basis I would have to say anything like an Indian women being “an easy mark.”
Clearly, Ms. Jacob’s intent was to justify the fact that Elizabeth Warren did not identify herself as being Indian as she was growing up, certainly not publicly, and certainly not at Northwest Classen. My stories of prejudice and persecution were used, however, not to discount the authenticity of Elizabeth’s claim to be Cherokee, but to account for why she did not claim it then. My testimony was used to buttress her claim to be Indian!
This was a totally different use of my testimony than I had expected.
I do not respect Elizabeth Warren. I consider her a fraud, a liar, and a manipulator. In short, a Democrat politician. Why would I want to contribute to any legitimacy about her–especially to her claim of being Indian? This was all a misuse of my testimony, or I should say, an unexpected, unanticipated use, and a use of which I do not approve.
I detest liars. To have the authenticity of my own experience used to support such a liar is piquantly offensive to me.
But, the fact is, Elizabeth Herring might be a tiny part Cherokee. Many white people in Oklahoma are. I said that to Ms. Jacobs. I was completely honest. But, again, the fact is, Elizabeth Herring was not proud of being Indian, did not claim to be Indian, was ashamed or embarrassed about being Indian, so that she was not know by anyone for being Indian–not by me or my older brother. It was a very well-kept secret. Perhaps I and my brother’s experience discouraged her from making any such obviously dubious claim. And she didn’t look Indian. She would have been thought to be a fool for making such a claim. But, if she were really Indian, she would have identified with it. She would have been proud of it, and would have made herself known to me or my brother.
Let her get her high-paying jobs by claiming to be Indian so late in life. Let her practice law in Massachusetts without a license. Let her make her millions and claim she’s represents the poor. Let her be a Democrat politician.
But don’t associate my experience with hers. She hasn’t paid any price for being Indian. She has no experience of being Indian. She’s only reaped undeserved advantage claiming to be Indian.
So, I regret the Boston Globe interview, which was a great waste of my time, and my testimony was used to foster the authenticity of a fraudulent individual. Elizabeth Warren has never identified with Indian people, never had any association with Indian people, never participated in anything with Indian people, and has no experience with Indian people. She doesn’t know anything about Indian people. Some old wife’s tale about somebody being Indian in the family, a way back when, doesn’t cut it. Plus, Elizabeth has apparently lied many times about it, and referenced fabricated evidence.
The Boston Globe supports her. Liberal media supports manipulative liars. That’s just how it is.
I still say Sally Jacobs is a wonderful person, with a very warm heart, and with deep understanding and sympathy. I’m just chagrined that so little of what I said was used, and that it was used in a way wholly other than what I’d expected, or would have sanctioned.
When I told my friend Richard Poe that I was interviewing with The Globe, he said, “Why would they want to interview you? Why would you want to interview with them? Why?” I was burned badly when I interviewed with the Los Angeles Times in 2007. I didn’t learn my lesson. Two strikes on me now. The next thing I know, I’ll get a call from the New York Times.





David Yeagley is the great-great-grandson of Comanche leader Bad Eagle. 



11 responses so far ↓
1 David Yeagley // Sep 28, 2012 at 10:38 am
The fight over Elizabeth Warren’s heritage, explained
Liberal Washington Post (supporting Warren, of course).
The bit about Cherokee leaders asking Brown to apologize for his supporters (when they mimicked Indians to make fun of Warren’s dubious claim and her obvious self-serving use of it) seems a bit misplaced to me.
The person that needs to apologize is Elizabeth Warren, for abusing the claim of being Indian–when she has apparently not one reason to based in reality or fact.
Of course, some Cherokee have objected to her claim, but they were put off and disrespected themselves.
So now the liberal Democrat Indian leader are objecting to white people mimicking Indians. So now that’s the real issue. So now we see how the Cherokee “leaders” really think.
2 Sioux // Sep 28, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Did Richard Poe slap you silly?? Someone needs to, Dr. Y – Jacobs is NOT wonderful or warm – she is a lying self-interested Leftie snob who protects others of her ilk. You been had big time.
DO NOT TALK TO THESE KIND OF PEOPLE – THEY ARE JUST @#&^$ USERS
3 David Yeagley // Sep 28, 2012 at 7:54 pm
I think I needed to hear that…
4 Maharishi of Mayhem // Sep 28, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Careful Sioux, this is the re-engineered, kinder, softer, Yeagley we are dealing with here.
5 Sioux // Sep 28, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Maharishi – we must ban together to stop the Invasion of the Soul Snatchers – they are trying to get David- Road Trip!!!!
6 Bonus Gift // Sep 28, 2012 at 11:50 pm
“You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?”
That’s right Mr. Yeagley, she is not a grape or fig, she is a thistle. Her actions tell you what and who she is; Sioux is right.
7 Sioux // Sep 29, 2012 at 11:10 am
I call it the “Delilah” syndrome… I will get what I want thru my feminine ways at your peril, Sir Samsom. No conscience to consider.
8 David Yeagley // Sep 29, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Warren was obviously ashamed of being Indian (or, of even claiming to be Indian). If she believe she was, then she was a complete coward about it. She didn’t want to be treated like me and my brother.
So, at the very least, the Jacobs article inevitably implies that Warren was a coward about being Indian. Yes, Jacobs used the negative experiences of me and my brother to justify why Warren did not identify as an Indian (whether she was or believed she was or not). But Jacobs cannot escape thereby creating the image that Warren was a disgrace to Indians.
I wonder if people see this?
9 Sioux // Sep 29, 2012 at 8:33 pm
I love the contortions that Jacobs goes thru to justify the fellow Massachusetts liar, Ms.Warren –because withholding truth makes you just as big a liar in my book as one who proclaims things that aren’t true. Jacob’s book about Obama as a case in point in withholding vital information about the Liar in Chief. Really, who is pulling all the marionette strings here??? NO shame, NO integrity. Will it be rewarded by a seat in the Senate for Ms. Warren? John Adams would be so proud of his fellow countrymen…not.
10 sheila // Sep 29, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Almost slander, isn’t it? I find it unbelievable that someone wanted to know about Fred’s high school history, especially if Warren had no connection with him other than being in the same graduating class. Jacob’s wanted to puke out a story for her “beloved” so that maybe she could be identified with “the people” – Since Fred obviously cannot speak for himself, I would like to think he would say “ENOUGH!” and walk away. After being dead for almost thirteen years, he still has more dignity in his DNA than any Warren or Jacobs could ever scrape up, clear back to the snake in the garden.
11 David Yeagley // Sep 29, 2012 at 9:31 pm
I don’t know what it was about the Yeagley brothers. There were other students whom I’m sure were “part Cherokee.” There was a notable football coach, Choate, who was part Indian, with two or three sons. But, they had blonde or light brown hair, and apparently no one teased them about it. I don’t know why Fred and I took the hits. I think it was just because we were prominent in other ways. I just don’t know.
And I know I don’t know the half of what my older brother went through, either. I was not part of the popular crowd. I wasn’t an athlete then. I couldn’t be (because of the cancer and after effects of radiation). I had few friends. But, everyone looked knew who Fred was, and most people highly respected him (if not feared him). Me? I was into classical piano. I was “weird.”
I left home before my younger brother was in high school. I don’t know whom Jacobs called first, or why, or on what basis. Bob Hammack for one, she did call. But the Yeagley brothers were singled out as the ones who ” looked distinctly Native American.”
Like I said, there are a whole lot of white people in Oklahoma who are “part Cherokee.” You’d never know it, because they don’t make anything out of it. It’s just ancient family background. Part of the history of the state.
What distinguishes Warren is her manipulative, abusive manoeuvering with the mere claim.
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