David Yeagley is the great-great-grandson of Comanche leader Bad Eagle. 
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For a few liberal American Indians, the one important and unanswered question in the Osama Bin Laden story is why the United States Navy Seals used the code word “Geronimo” to represent the world’s most despised mass murderer.
Of course, these Indians haven’t even asked that question. They have protested the used of the name in this military circumstance, and the liberal media is proud to voice their Indian protest. Liberals this way can denigrate the US military victory, and divert attention from “president” Barry’s unorthodox indulgence in the war gesture. They know he seeks a campaign stimulus, and they were willing to grant him that; but, the fact is, liberals don’t like anything that represents strength or patriotism. The Indian protest has become the liberal voice against the whole affair of Bin Laden’s reported death. Liberals love for Indians to represent anti-Americanism. It is the most power such representation of all.
As most news stories these days, particularly those eminating from Washington, the Bin Laden reports have been contradictory, edited five minutes have they’ve been published, or substituted with new stories. Our BadEagle.com was just subjected to such confusion, which we freely acknowledge, yet we retain some sense of professionalism in this second article in a day on the same subject–something BadEagle.com has never done before.
In “Geronimo, Osama, and Indian Propriety: Protesting the Protesters,” posted this morning, we took issue with the liberal Indian objections to the use of the name Geronimo. However, in our comments following, we noted that there was confusion over the way in which the name was used, what it was used for, and what was meant by its use. And there was even confusion over who was doing the protesting. (For example, a late report now says Harlyn Geronimo, a great greandson of Geronimo, is into the Apache protest, whereas earlier, it was the tribal leader great grandson Jeff Houser who was the key protester. Articles are constantly being re-written, substituted, updated, etc; as a result, BadEagle.com must make this second post. The original protester was a woman, Lauren Tuell, a senate Indian affairs staffer )
So now we address the issue of why. Why did the US Military decide to use the name Geronimo? Whose choice was it, in fact? This is the person who needs to be identified and questioned. All we can offer is speculation.
We know Geronimo was an incredibly successful Apache warrior, of the Chiricaqua. He led guerilla warfare against the invading whites (and Mexicans), and evaded capture and/or escaped confinement for decades. In the end, in 1886, it had taken thousands of US soldiers, scouts, and Mexican volunteers to track him down. The man was magical. His powers were feared. When he was given the status of a prisoner of war, he was taken to Fort Pickens, in Pensecola, Florida. So great was his power that the US Army did not want him near his people, nor his land, for fear he would arouse that deadly Apache restance.
An Apache spiritual man. Apaches were deeply involved
in the supernatural. Their religion is complex and powerful.
So, lethal warfare, remarkable powers, uncanny evasion and vision, were the military mark of Geronimo. Perhaps this is why he name came to be associated with Osama Bin Laden. The US Military loves the Indian ambience in all things. It is a grand American tradition. (Perhaps the Navy took a little too objective a view here, and did not have the sense of appreciation for Geronimo, but only the sense of his fearful power.) But, Geronimo was certainly not a serial mass murderer. Geronimo did not have millions of Muslims to support him, help him, hide him, or praise him. Geronimo had only the mountains, and the moon. In the end, Geronimo had only 16 warriors, 12 women, and 6 children when he capitulated to US military forces.
Certainly, Geronimo was considered an enemy of the United States of America. Anyone who cost as much as capture as he did was definitely not considered an asset! But, all Indians were America’s national enemy at one point or another. That is the history of the encounter. Is it wrong to have used Geronimo’s name in the encounter with Osama Bin Laden?
From the Indian point of view, it is offensive, yes. From America’s point of view, it is not. It is a proud victory, with an appropriate name in code. Fighting against Indians is one of the few vestiges of American social unity remaining active in the modern American psyche. Too many foreigners have been her too long now to unite on anything else. The Indian is just America’s original boogie-man. That’s all. The Indian was a holy terror to early America, something America has never forgotten.
Real warriors would understand that. Indians haven’t forgotten history either, but, it seems some Indians have forgotten to be warriors. Unto the victor belong the spoils. Americans won. They won the land. It is theirs. They are the victors. Did they out-number us? yes; did they have superior weapons? yes. War and victory are never about fairness, equality, or sportsmanship. War is a desperate act. War is to win, whether defending or “pre-empting.”
It appears that, in “president” Barry’s case, war is about winning votes, but, that’s Barry. He has no concept of national identity or patriotism. We don’t look to him for anything but the denigration of all he associates himself with.
I think the basic Indian reaction to this, particularly the Apache reaction, is right, but not expedient. It is an honest response, but not a useful one. It is spitting in the wind. It shows weakness, not strength. Certain wars are over. Certain losses cannot be recovered. To lament this, as the theme of ethnic existence, is not healthy. It provides no positive, hopeful path. If these Indian protesters are concerned about the “devastating” effects on children, “native and non-native,” (which is pushing it, I’d say), they should be more concerned about their own effect. They have given the media the story. It is these Indian protesters who have dramatized the use of “Geronimo” in the Bin Laden death story. They should never have opened their mouths. But, in stead, they have tried to make that the story. They have thus branded this great American victory with a wholly unnecessary distraction. They have embarrassed, not honored, all Indian people in this.
Again, they are right in what they are saying, but, ill-advised for saying it. No good will come of this, for anyone, least of all for Indians.
This is partly the result of their having invested in the false hope that a person of color as “president” would have any whit the concern for Indians. Barry is a Negro who thinks of himself as superior to whites, yet seeking all the “white” power and authority he can aggregate. Denigrating Indians, if in the use of “Geronimo” as the code word for Bin Laden, makes him feel white power.
It is stark naivete for Indians to look to the Negro for anything in the way of value. Indians protesters, trained by white oedipal liberals, think racist, and are taught to believe that all non-white people are naturally affined, and automatically think alike, have the same values, and should all unite against the white man. This is what white liberals have taught them.
Will any liberal Indians learn a lesson from this? Doubtfully. They are professional protesters. That’s their career. That’s what they do. They think nothing of the effects of what they’re doing. “Useful idiots?” In an earlier day, they might have been called “dumb Indians.” This is what white liberals think of Indians. Conservatives don’t really have any thoughts about Indians. Conservatives have only a few concepts of responsibility, and they see the Indian as far from the ideal in this regard.
But the conservative way is a far better path than the liberal delusion. Indians need to consider the path of honor, and not beggary. The white man owes the Indian nothing. Nothing at all. The Indian should never, ever expect anything from the white man. Our fathers made treaties, in blood, but, we should always be prepared for the white man to break his word, of circumstancial necessity.
Or haven’t we learned anything at all from our own history?
49 responses so far ↓
1 Pamela K. // May 6, 2011 at 9:01 pm
According to a press release from the White House, the Navy Seals used the term, “Geronimo E. KIA” which means, “Geronimo, Enemy Killed In Action.”
Because the identities as well as the missions of Navy Seals are kept top secret,
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2011/May/A-Look-Inside-bin-Ladens-Assassination-Squad/
and because the White House keeps changing and embellishing the details of this story, how can anyone really be sure that the Seals even used the code word, “Geronimo” in this alleged killing of Osama Bin Ladin?
This whole thing is a contrived deception, and has vast left-wing conspiracy written all over it.
2 David Yeagley // May 7, 2011 at 8:23 pm
I’m thinking my last two blogs on this story represent an exercise in counter-Left analysis and concervative advocacy for Indians.
I think what I said needed to be said, and is critically important; but, I may be far from the truth of the actual events in both cases.
I think to make a liberal Indian issue out the code name, and rob all the media time from the true victory (if there really was one), is a profound disservice to Indians.
I will also point out that most of the protesters, since the AIM days, are half-breeds and thin-bloods. I think that is important to note.
They think they validate their Indianness by hating America. That’s the line the Left gave them. They play the part, professionally.
3 David Yeagley // May 7, 2011 at 9:19 pm
From Albert’s MilitaryAnalysis.blogspot.com:
Geronimo
Friday, May 6, 2011
“WHY IS NO ONE LISTENING! bin Laden’s code name was “JACKPOT” and the operation was NOT called “Geronimo”.. Geronimo was the codeword for SUCCESS!! Geronimo EKIA= Success!, Enemy Killed In Action. If we keep making issues out of things we haven’t RESEARCHED, they end up being frivolous and sooner or later, we lose ANY possibility of having a voice PERIOD! AGAIN, GERONIMO MEANT the mission was completed SUCCESSFULLY, Not the codename for bin Laden..NOR was it the code name for the operation.”
Let me reiterate and make this perfectly clear – - “Geronimo was the codeword for SUCCESS!! Geronimo EKIA= Success!, Enemy Killed In Action”.
I don’t know who “William” is, nor what his sources are, but he echoes my sentiments in my first blog on “Geronimo.” I did not think the name Geronimo was used to equate the Indian patriot to the Muslims mass murderer.
William says “Geronimo” wasn’t even the name of the mission. It was not the name for Bin Laden, or the mission. I would like to know some official sources on this.
4 Asaph // May 8, 2011 at 4:45 am
CONFUSING, isn’t it?
5 Asaph // May 8, 2011 at 4:51 am
I have come to a place where “news” is not. It’s all propaganda. It’s all spin. It’s all agenda driven, money driven, ideologically driven. Truth is not even part of the national process anymore.
America is a saturated mess. Systemically so.
Trust, the foundation of all function between citizens and elected civil servants, between news givers and news receivers is long gone for the majority. The rest who believe whatever they are told are no longer truly Americans. They are citizens of Propagandaland.
6 Pamela K. // May 8, 2011 at 8:37 am
Deception: the act or state of deceiving; fraud or artifice.
Delusion: a false belief or opinion
Division: the state of being divided; in a country, people are divided for political reasons
Dominate: to rule over; govern, control.
Obama has deceived even the very elect of this nation while perpetrating a delusion of civility over them. He has divided our country along racial and social lines and continues to dominate over the greedy and the ignorant, fulfilling their selfish desires for more material wealth, while taking away from them one of the most important God-given gifts that money can never buy, their freedom.
These are the very tactics of Satan himself.
7 David Yeagley // May 8, 2011 at 11:06 am
For those of us who love the truth, perhaps we should rejoice, in that we are growing more and more separated from this world.
8 David Yeagley // May 8, 2011 at 11:26 am
And HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY to all the mothers out there!!
9 David Yeagley // May 8, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-Senate Intelligence Committee) said that there was an “executive order” to kill Bin Laden, not to take him captive, Jim Galloway said Thursday (May 5).
Therefore, it seems likely that that “Geronimo EKIA” was about completion of the mission. But, this is still an unsettled issue. I don’t know how it can be settled, like Barry’s birth certificate. We accept that as a lie now. So, dare we believe anything else?
10 Pamela K. // May 8, 2011 at 12:23 pm
New Revelation from the Voice of the Dead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg&feature=related
11 Pamela K. // May 8, 2011 at 2:40 pm
This original tape of the interview in Comment #10 has since been edited by the BBC. They claim that Benazir Bhutto made a “mistake” when she said Osama Bin Laden was killed.
But I am wondering whether her words cost her. Not long after she gave this interview she was assassinated in December, 2007.
12 Asaph // May 8, 2011 at 2:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IIn_UnLO9I&feature=related
Explanation.
13 Asaph // May 8, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Dead kink on Galloway, David, although I saw the statement elsewhere.
14 Pamela K. // May 8, 2011 at 3:07 pm
In the original interview that I posted Benazir Bhutto did not once mention Daniel Pearl. Perhaps if I could hear Bhutto admitting her mistake, spoken from her own lips, I would believe it. But Benazir Bhutto is dead. This makes it convenient for the arrogant-sounding “refuter” speaking on this tape to discredit what is so obvious. He is probably some government recruited hack hired to glean the Internet for anything that proves the White House is lying through it’s teeth, which it is!. Although people were killed in this operation, Osama Bin Laden was not because he is already dead!
This latest installment in the continuing saga of lies and deception coming from the Obama White House should be called. “Barry Plays GI Joe” using our Navy Seals to bolster his sagging popularity ratings. He is the one our Navy Seals should be removing from power!
15 David Yeagley // May 8, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Saxby Chambliss link:
First shot at Osama was a miss.
Check out fifth paragraph and quote. Galloway has written several pieces on the “story.” There is enough confusion so that each reporter can have his own special point of emphasis that no one else is picking up on! This is magical. It is bewildering. I agree with Pam. It’s satanic! (Did you say that, Pam?) Or was that you, Asaph?
16 Pamela K. // May 8, 2011 at 7:08 pm
I did. But I am sure Asaph would agree. Wherever there is fear, confusion, and general chaos in this lost and fallen world we live in, the devil is lurking in the wings, or in our 24-7 media, just off camera.
17 David Yeagley // May 8, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Here’s a 2008 SundayTimes (London) look at Bhutto’s remarks. This is how they were interpreted, then:
Benazir Bhutto accuses Osama Bin Laden’s son from beyond the grave
IN A POSTHUMOUS autobiography excerpted in The Sunday Times today, Benazir Bhutto names the 16-year-old son of Osama Bin Laden as the leader of one of four gangs of “designated assassins” sent to kill her.
The former Pakistan prime minister, who was assassinated as she left a rally in Rawalpindi in December, reveals she was warned by both President Pervez Musharraf and a “friendly Muslim government” that Hamza Bin Laden was planning her murder.
The naming of Bin Laden’s teenage son appears to bolster intelligence claims that Hamza is being groomed as a future leader of Al-Qaeda.
Could it have been the son of Bin Laden, Hamza, who was killed May 1?
Bin Ladin’s sister-in-law, Carmin, has much to say about Osama’s brothers, one of whom, Yeslam, she had the misfortune of marrying. (Inside the Kingdom, 2004.)
Yeslam (worth at least $300 million at one early point) developed psychological problems. He was terrified of crowds. He became reclusive, and frightened of air travel. This was by 1981.
Such wealth and power in the family makes these bedouin (and mostly anyone else) mentally unhealthy. It is a lure, wealth, but it brings generally much suffering with it–especially when it is unearned, or ill-earned. The whole concept of owenership becomes unmanagable. Life becomes rather incomprehensible, if you’re serious about life.
18 David Yeagley // May 8, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Keep digging, and look what we find.
CNN Wire, May 5, 2011 (Thursday):
Initial press reports said that “Geronimo” was used in the raid to refer to bin Laden, but a senior administration official later told CNN that it was code for the act of capturing or killing bin Laden, not for the man himself.
Keel said that according to his understanding, the most-wanted terrorist’s code name was “Jackpot,” and the name of the operation was “Geronimo.”
Yet another contradiction. Why can’t the news get the story straight? Is it because the “officials” each have their own story, and an incorrect one?
Here is probably one of the better pieces on the story: USAToday, May 5, 2011 (Thursday).
Senate Indian Affairs panel to discuss ‘Geronimo’ code name in bin Laden mission
How exactly the term was used remains unclear. After bin Laden was killed, the military sent a message back to the White House: “Geronimo EKIA” — enemy killed in action. U.S. officials have since said that “Geronimo” was the name of the operation itself and that “Jackpot” was the code word for bin Laden.
This article was updated itself, upon its original posting. See the article.
This story was impossible! I think I should have waited two weeks before commenting! It is now a week later, and the facts are still not available to the public. This story was entirely too complicated for me to be even considering non-professional blogs as resources. The “military” blog was completely mistaken.
19 David Yeagley // May 8, 2011 at 9:32 pm
According to HuffingtonPost’s “updated” post of May 5, it was NPR (National Public Radio) who said that there was “some uncertainty about whether Geronimo was being used as a code name for the mission or for bin Laden himself remains.”
NPR merely repeated the “uncertainty” bit. Nothing new in that HuffingtonPost story or the NPR story it quotes.
NPR did mention the fact that Geronimo eluded capture “for more than a decade after being hunted by some 5,000 troops following his raids on U.S. settlers.” BadEagle.com suggested that association the next day, having no knowledge whatever of these other news stories. As I said, I responded, unwisely, to only one story, the AP wire of May 3. I was behind the story, to be frank. And then discovered the story was riddled with contradictions and uncertainties.
20 Edwin M. Wright // May 9, 2011 at 12:46 am
The HinduPresident Obama’s national-security adviser, Tom Donilon, says the United States seeks to speak with Osama bin Laden’s three wives and review materials taken from the compound after the US raid. By Richard Simon To call bin Laden’s female slaves …
The Seattle Times View related stories »
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21 David Yeagley // May 9, 2011 at 8:58 am
Presumably, this is the piece you are alluding to:
U.S. pushes to interview bin Laden’s wives
The Obama administration Sunday pressed Pakistan to grant access to Osama bin Laden’s three widows as part of a U.S. investigation into the al-Qaida leader’s life leading up to his killing by Navy SEALs inside a compound in the garrison city of Abbottabad last week.
I wonder if one of them will be called “Lozan.” And I gather your suggestion is apropos. Wives? More like temps. Bin Laden had a long career of anti-social outrage. An enormously wealthy Saudi family. These last three giggers probably know very little about him, late comers as they are in the story.
22 David Yeagley // May 9, 2011 at 11:18 am
Native Americans Change Profile Pictures To Protest Use of “Geronimo” in Bin Laden Mission
Members of the Native American community have spoken out against the assignation of the name Geronimo to the operation to capture and kill Osama bin Laden. They’re asking users to change their Twitter and Facebook pictures to that of legendary Apache leader Geronimo as a form of protest and to honor him.
GERONIMO!
23 David Yeagley // May 9, 2011 at 11:25 am
More of the same arguments:
Metro Detroit’s American Indians angry over use of ‘Geronimo’ code name
“It’s very hurtful,” said Fay Givens, executive director of American Indian Services, based in Lincoln Park. “Everyone I’ve talked to has been horrified by it, just kind of shocked. It’s another case of the insensitivity to our feelings as American Indians.”
“Osama bin Laden is not an American. We are Americans. We are the first Americans. We are deeply offended by it.”
Again, no one is revealing why the name “Geronimo” was chosen, who chose it, and why. This is all speculation and surmizing.
“It’s bad enough they name their weapons after us: the Apache helicopters, the Chinook helicopters, the Tomahawk missiles,” Givens said. “And now, to use Geronimo in the same context as Osama bin Laden is really a blow to us.”
I disagree completely. This is pathetic belly-aching. This is what women do! This is a disgrace for Indian women to act this way. For Indian men to echo these sentiments is as low, weak, unmanly as can possibly be imagined. This is liberalism: belly-aching.
The white Americans won. They can do whatever they want with Indian images, words, names, or whatever. It is vomitable, to me, to see Indians cry over the use of our names by the military!
We used to own that word warrior, and strength, bravery, and everything else manly. This is what it meant to be an Indian. Whatever social or national circumstances that call for the recollection of that image, I say MORE OF IT!!!
24 David Yeagley // May 9, 2011 at 11:30 am
TheNewAmerican posted an interesting article, with a few more details.
Indians On Warpath Over bin Laden Operation Code Word: Geronimo
R. Cort Kirkwood
May 4, 2011
Quoting a masters degree Indian female student, Lisa Balk King:
The “bin Laden is dead” news story will make thousands of impressions on the minds of people around the globe, and the name Geronimo will now be irrevocably linked with the world’s most reviled terrorist.
Potentially the most disturbing fact is what this says to American Indian children. It equates being Native American with being hated, an enemy to the world, and someone to be hunted down and killed, and re-casts one of their heroes into a villainous role.
I disagree. This is a misinterpretation. These Indians are burying themselves in this protest. They should be trying to established the alternative perspective–the use of Indian names and images to represent strength, not weakness.
Again, we do not know what was meant by the use of the name Geronimo in this case. There is no testimony as to who chose it, and why.
25 mhtyler // May 9, 2011 at 1:00 pm
When someone pointed at Freud’s cigar and noted the significance, Freud’s response was, “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”
How many people have yelled “Geronimo!” just before skydiving, or before a high dive. I have. When I was a kid, you yelled Geronimo when you were about to do something brave.
Every kid understood that good or bad, Geronimo wasn’t someone you messed around with. These Navy Seals would understand that tradition, and I have trouble believing that someone like Geronimo would object to being remembered so strongly as someone associated with brave action.
Do Indians really think the Navy Seals chose that name to harm the image of Geronimo? If so, that is simply too many different kinds of stupid to fix.
Liberal Indians like any other liberals need to shut their cakeholes and appreciate the fact that the bravest of the brave chose Geronimo. They might have called the operation “Hitler”, or “Mussolini”, or even operation “puffy pastry”, but I don’t think that is the “look” that the Navy Seals were going for.
Mark
26 David Yeagley // May 9, 2011 at 1:50 pm
I agree with you, Mark. I said this in the beginning, but, then, the story became muddled when a mis-word had it that “Jackpot” was the code name of Bin Ladin himself, and “Geronimo” the operation.
The matter would be settled of some military or government person stepped out and revealed who chose the name, and what he was thinking when he chose it.
But, like the birth certificate, Barry’s boys all have learned to prize confusion, and muddy waters. Smoke, mirrors, mist, clouds, vagueness, and misinformation. Somehow, they think there is an advantage in this.
What might that be?
27 BrockTownsend // May 9, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Tomahawk Missiles, Apache Helicopters, Using Any Native American Term Is Racist
http://freenorthcarolina.blogspot.com/2011/05/tomahawk-missiles-apache-helicopters.html
28 David Yeagley // May 9, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Es gibt keine Ende!
Geronimo Code Name Criticized During Senate Hearing
WSJ, May 5, 2011
All the stock, white liberal psychology in play. “Indians” playing white liberals, white belly-achers. Everyone in on the act, all the professional DC career protesters there. Stock, false, superficial arguments and comments. This was just air time for the belly-achers. Same ol’ same ol’.
This all happened very quickly. Slapped together “Senate” meeting. A staffer, maybe two. All hype. Nothing serious about it. Just another media moment for the professional belly-achers.
29 David Yeagley // May 9, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Thanks, BT for the video!
LaDuke is about as “white” as they come, when it’s about articulating an “intellectual” Indian complaint. Then again, she’s half Jewish (mother), so we would expect some brains there! But, this is all a superficial imposition of white psychology and social morality, superimposed on a brief moment of Indian history, like, the last 150 years, maybe. As though the Chippewa had never mistreated any other tribe (like the Sioux).
I must admit, though, the Comanche were probably the worst “imperialists.” But, no Indian tribe tried to take over another. Comanches came, saw, and conquered, taking whatever we wanted. But, we weren’t interested in taking over any other people, nor was any other Indian tribe. That’s a MiddleEastern, Western civilization thing. Indians don’t do that.
But, for Indians to assess the present situation in terms of white morality is pretty silly, if not shameful. No pride. No strength. Just manipulation. This is liberalism. This is slave mentality, as Neitzsche might say. I for one will have none of it. LaDuke as always been good at articulating the white Judeo-Christian morality position–against the whites. I guess it makes her feel her Indian half. Thinking white doesn’t make me feel my Indian half.
I’d like to meet her.
30 David Yeagley // May 9, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Furthermore, the Comanche kicked the Apache out of the southwest, over into New Mexico and Arizona–something the Spanish military was not able to do for nearly 300 years, according to John M. Myers, in The Alamo (University of Nebraska, 1948), p.47.
Personally, I love the Apache! I always end up dressing and looking more like them than my own people, some people have told me. Well, historically, Comanche often took whatever they wanted, in the way of food, style, “technolgy” (horse culture), from anyone they wanted. Comanches were like ancient Perians, in that regard. Above the compulsion to assert unique cultural identity through artifacts.
31 Pamela K. // May 9, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Let’s just assume this alleged operation was named for Geronimo (not Bin Laden). I think most Apaches should feel honored, not offended that the US Military would name an operation to take out a heartless killer like Osama Bin Ladin after Geronimo, or, Goyahkla. He may well have been the inspiration for the term, “death before dishonor”,
The daring raid staged by Israeli Commandoes on the airport in Entebbe, Uganda in July, 1976 to rescue their people being held by Arab terrorists was initially called Operation Thunderbolt. It is now often referred to as Operation Yonatan, after Yonatan Netanyahu, the older brother of current Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, who was the only one of the elite military force to die during the operation. This is how I see Operation Geronimo. Although this most formidable Apache warrior did not die in battle like Yonatan Netanyahu, both men were fearless and courageous in defending and protecting their people.
32 David Yeagley // May 9, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Geronimo is like a hit, or a win. “Geronimo!” when you hit the “Jackpot,” or the target. It is a cry of victory, really.
Military operations have to have names. It’s all about communication. And spirit!
33 Pamela K. // May 9, 2011 at 6:55 pm
“So long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people, greedy, barbarous, and cruel, as you are…” T.E. Lawrence to Sharif Ali, a quote from the movie, “Lawrence of Arabia”
The Brotherhood vs.Al-Qaeda
http://www.currenttrends.org/research/detail/the-brotherhood-vs-al-qaeda-a-moment-of-truth
Perhaps the “death” of Osama Bin Ladin or whoever was in that compound has less to do with retribution for 9/11 and a lot more to do with the US Government backing the Muslim Brotherhood against Al-Qaeda.
We already know that Obama is supporting the Muslim Brotherhood’s staged “Days of Rage” across the Arab World. He just hit a snag when it came to old Muammar Quadafi. Notice how it has been all quiet on the Libyan front lately? I wonder what that sly old desert fox has been up to? No good, that’s for sure! Obama better take care. When you play with fire you’re eventually going to get burnt!
34 David Yeagley // May 9, 2011 at 8:29 pm
If that movie, “Lawrence of Arabia” is anywhere near the truth, Arab tribal culture is very much like any other. Pride, vanity, arrogance, raw egotism, all characteristic. They don’t go by race, but by tribe. (Just like American Indians did.)
Islam–that was the one thing that got all their rancor united, as the Arabs invaded the world. It was all about dominating, humiliating others, enslaving others. Pure egotism. Lethal, and tragic. Should never have come upon the world. It is a stench.
Keeping the Arabs fighting against each other was always a basic solution. Maybe some still think that will work. I don’t see Iran’s Islamic regime becoming dominant or hegemonic at all, though I know that is their ambition. Islam is an Arabic way, not a Persian way.
35 Pamela K. // May 9, 2011 at 9:05 pm
That’s true. But I suppose to Lawrence, the civilized British military officer and western thinker, the Arabs were a cruel and primitive people.
I am not even sure if Ahmadinejad is Persian! He is also distinctly set apart from al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood because of his messianic, if mentally insane belief that if he obtains a nuclear weapon and wipes out one-third of the population on earth, his actions will usher the coming of the Mahdi, or the 13th Imam. Our government fails to take him seriously!
Persia was a great empire of gentle and refined and well-educated people with a unique culture. Islam has destroyed that country. However, God says that in the last days, He will restore the fortunes of Elam (Iran).
“But it shall be in the latter days (the end of days) that I will reverse the captivity and restore the fortunes of Elam, says the Lord.”
Jeremiah 49:39
36 David Yeagley // May 9, 2011 at 9:11 pm
I’ve often wondered about that text. I went to Iran in 1999–to pray for the country. That special role they played in the restoration of Israel was remarkable. The Lord would never forget something like that. (Yes, it was His own doing, but, He rewards us just the same!)
Yet, look at Iran’s attitude toward Israel today.
Well, I prayed for a miracle in 1999, and have continued to pray ever since.
37 Pamela K. // May 9, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Keep praying! I believe God has placed a burden in your heart for His Persian children. You have even met their beautiful Empress!
38 Edwin M. Wright // May 10, 2011 at 1:52 am
They can call their weapon’s and war mission’s anything they want I.E. John Kennedy Jr. or Joe Polooka, or Mickey Mouse,
The real issue is IMO WTH is going on where are our Representative’s who are not bought and paid or or have any courage ?
Forgive me for posting this one more time, but it is only One Minute and from 1935.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avGl7k4OGJY
39 Thrasymachus // May 10, 2011 at 10:14 am
One thing I must say:
I do not take my history lessons from Hollywood movies!
Movies are entertainment. They may get a bit of history right or they may get it all wrong — but this medium is clearly not a reliable source of historical fact. There may be some truth in a movie, but THE truth about historical events cannot be found there.
To suggest that Hollywood does not have political interests is absurd! History must be made to serve those interests in any motion picture. In fact, it would be impossible for ANY group of people to get together to make movies without having them conform to some agenda.
40 Thrasymachus // May 10, 2011 at 10:14 am
Thanks Edwin for the link. It was new to me!
41 Thrasymachus // May 10, 2011 at 10:47 am
I know that what I’m about to post is changing the topic a bit, so let me preface it with this:
I admire Geronimo for his courage and determination to fight for his people! He followed instincts natural to man.
Now, as to those instincts in Whites:
Edwin, I am sorry to report that Science has now proven what we are witnessing with our own eyes: Nature has not prepared or equipped the brains of white people to cope with the liberal race-equality and miscegenation ideology.
Using the fMRI, scientists have tested directly and specifically for emotional reactions in the brain purely about race.
It was discovered that ALL Whites fear Blacks in the areas of the brain that register fear. The amygdala will respond with fear when a white person is shown a black African’s face.
However, the PFC (prefrontal cortex) can easily suppress this fear and aversion to the Negro and simply shut this reaction down.
This shut-down happens as a result of what these Whites have been taught by their church leaders, media powers, and the education system to believe on this subject, from the moral point of view.
So, unless those who preach the communist “anti-racist” doctrine are driven out of the West, white nations will simply perish.
One more thing you should consider:
These liberals fantasize about a world in which human sexual behavior is divorced from procreation. They dream o a world in which babies are produced in the laboratory and the nuclear family is dissolved. This is why they promote abortion, same-sex marriage, etc. They want a society of individuals ONLY. Not loyalties to family or race or nation. This is their ultimate goal. People become individuals without group identities — eventually including religion. Muticulturalism is designed to lead to monoculturalism.
Geronimo was right! Liberals are wrong. It is actually quite ironic that they have chosen the name of a man who represents the opposite of their ideology.
42 Thrasymachus // May 10, 2011 at 11:15 am
Here is the Encarta World English Dictionary entry for Geronimo:
“(1829-1909) U.S. Chiricahua Apache leader. He was a legendary warrior who led his people in raids on settlers and U.S. troops before being captured in 1886. Born Goyathlay.”
The instincts on which Geronimo acted were those of race and nation! He was not a “liberal” by any mans! He knew who HIS people were and who the enemy was, and he did not hesitate to defend his own. The whole performance and career of this man was an exercise in morality based on defending his ethnic nation.
Whites, as in the American War Between the States, and both World Wars, have turned against each other! Why would a Frenchman hate a German, or vice versa, and think him the “enemy”? Yet this is precisely the historical fact of the matter. If only Europeans would unite against Islam — then Islam might have a salutary effect in that continent! But there are few to no white warriors anymore.
43 Edwin M. Wright // May 10, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Dummy that is not a movie..
Huey P. Long by T Harry William Knopf 1971
44 Thrasymachus // May 10, 2011 at 12:56 pm
” . . . a quote from the movie, “Lawrence of Arabia” ”
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I was a-talkin’ about the movie “Lawernce of Arabia”! LOL!
Hey!
I know something about Huey P. Long. He was a real candidate in politics and made real-life speeches.
Long was the Louisiana governor and U.S. senator, and he was assassinated at age 42.
45 Pamela K. // May 10, 2011 at 3:23 pm
“Lawrence of Arabia” was a 1962 British film, directed by the legendary British director, Sir David Lean. and produced by Sam Spiegel through his British company, Horizon Pictures, and it was primarily filmed in Jordan and Morocco, not Hollywood.
Although it is considered a masterpiece and one of the greatest and most influential films of all time, along with Lean’s other blockbusters, “Dr. Zhivago”, and “Bridge On The River Kwai,” the historical accuracy of the film has been widely debated. All films centering around real people are often a blend of fact and fiction. I love the film because of it’s great escapism and beautiful musical score. I have learned most of what I know about the real T.E. Lawrence from books, especially his own, “Seven Pillars of Wisdom”
46 Edwin M. Wright // May 10, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Looks like I made a dummy of my self, lol.
47 Edwin M. Wright // May 11, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Thrasymachus // May 10, 2011 at 10:47 am
Had to read this, and thank for an excellent post, as IMO only the real hate cults hate to read anything that refutes their proven murderous war agenda and false flags used against for the last 112 years at full speed ahead actions.
48 Edwin M. Wright // May 12, 2011 at 11:58 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyY86rqHgm8&feature=channel_video_title
‘Geronimo’ use in bin Laden mission prompts counseling offer
49 tncflyfree // May 21, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Listen to my song:”why use Geronimo’s name”
http://www.myspace.com/tncproductionsflyfreestudios
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