As I see it, the WASP (former) elite has simply been won over to the liberal cause in everything but economics.

To name just a few things the original 13 colonies believed in and legislated:

(1) Abortion was illegal in all 13 colonies.
(2) Miscegenation with Negroes was likewise unlawful.
(3) Nationhood was understood as something pertaining to ethnic, tribal, or racial roots — not just a pledged to be a good citizen.
(4) Entanglements with foreign nations in the form of alliances were unacceptable. (George Washington made this clear).

The whole root of the problem with the White Race is that Whites today have lost the fundamental knowledge of just what a “nation” is (not to mention what a “marriage” and a family are)!

Conservatives who resent and attempt to eradicate time-honored promises are not conservatives, for the only thing they wish to conserve is their bank accounts.

I would like to see both American Indian and White European nations preserved. They have, both alike, a natural right to perpetuate themselves and to continue to exist as true nations.

The “anti-racism” dogma is not really about ending persecution of people based on race; it is primarily a means to reducing individual men and women (and even children) into atomized units which must each fend for themselves without the support of the community. Yet religion grew up as the spirit of the tribe, and the individual was dependent on the tribe, as it was dependent on him or her.

http://rsmccain.blogspot.com/2009/12/apaches-at-tea-party.html

First though I would like to challenge the sweeping generalizations concerning the construction of NDN identity in a Pan-Indian sense. There are over 500 federally recognized tribes, in multiple regions with different histories. Some are conservative in their political ties like the Oklahoma Choctaw. Others lean more liberal as has been noted.

As far as the treaty obligations that the US has…the treaties are contracts between sovereigns. The Tribes reserved rights (fishing, religious, etc.), territory and political identity in return for an exchange for ceding a larger territory. Both sides opted out of armed conflict due to mutual benefit. Where these have been/are being breached is in terms of the fiduciary responsibility of the US…see the ongoing Cobell case as the primary example.

As for a “White America” there was a group that tried to establish a compound at Hayden Lake Idaho…but I jest…sort of. The point I would make here is that “White America” is re-coded Westernism of the same flavor as Europe. The discerning factor is that the US is a setter nation. Of course as a means of generating their own Nationalism there must be an ahistoricity of narrative originating at the East Coast of what is now called the US. The basic philosophies (in the social contract sense) are derived from Europe, the calendar is Roman and the broader epistemology is Greek.

In other words what makes the US unique is that there is limited co-habitation between the beneficiaries of the dominant narrative and those that has moved along the hegemon at cost.

Now that very co-habitation is what is under assault here rather roundly. Whether it is in the segregation policy proponed, or the deportation of those deemed suspect. In other nations that were colonized the model was to export the colonizer. The end result was not successful, but the economic structures of imperialism were not successfully excised either.

My 2 Cents

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This would include Japan, Korea, most of Europe, Iraq, and countless countries who have been rebuilt by dollars from American tax payers for rebuilding their countries following the ravages of war. Surely the Nations that lost everything for the existance of the United states are wholy undeserving of anything!!!! Makes perfect sense to me! On this I do agree, just sever the umbilical cord, give us back our land, and keep your’ tax dollars, and Government organization and set up shop elsewhere. I am sorry but I don’t buy into the idea of taxpayers as victims. Few Nations have profitted as much as America. That would be why many still desire to come here to our land after 5oo years -and live on (Indian lands) to live and generate a profit for their families. I don’t call them victims….I call them wealthy in every aspect at Indians expense.

A Nation that fails to honor it’s promises is not much of a Nation. Groups that believe doing away with treaty comittments , or keeping their word are organizations that hopefully will collapse.

Good article Doc, this is one of the best articles you have written. It sickens me that Indians need to feel the need to forsake their conservative ideals for liberal ties, simply because the Conservative groups seek to erase Native Americans even from their thought processes. Compare the money shelled out yearly to foreign nations who have no footing/ basis/ or loyalty to the U.S. to the amount of Tax dollars expended on Indian Country and you will find a vast difference.

Your only question could be: were the treaty settlements aggreed to out of white compassion for Indians (guilt-based, perhaps), or were they arrived upon because Congress ran out of money? (Indian wars were incredibly expensive. The Plains wars, especially, were like America’s 19th century Afghanistans or Iraqs).

Were the treaties a concession on the part of the government? Or were they earned by Indian warriors?

In either case, a treaty is a treaty. Apply your conservative principles to illegal immigrants, Arab and Pakistani Muslims.

Enough is enough, the umbilical cord must be cut. The American taxpayer doing his 40, 50, 60 hours a week, 50 weeks a year for 40 years is the true victim and must be made the center of attention.

Nationhood supported and funded by a sense of ridiculous guilt is a nation destined to collapse.

I mean, what would you do if foreigners were taking over? To me, it looks like Americans have forgotten the lesson. A strange kind of denial. Whites can’t acknowledge the logic and legitimacy of the Indians without condemning themselves in the process. I think this need not be so. At all.

America now needs to do as Indians did! America has been kind to everyone. Now it’s time to fight–for what’s left of America.

Just one thing: Indians are not the enemy!!!! To “attack” Indians at this point is ludicrous, wrong, and terribly weak. It’s like, America has lost to all other enemies, but, America can still stomp on the Indian. That’s the last stand. If all else fails, knock the Indian.

I wouldn’t call this bravery, or even principle. It’s wrong all the way around.

Perhaps hosts in an alternate, mitigated reality designed to continue the Indian’s ward statues.

“Hostilities opened in late 1636 after the murder of several colonists. When the Pequots refused to comply with the demands of the Massachusetts Bay Colony for the surrender of the guilty and other forms of indemnification, a punitive expedition was led against them by John Endecott, the first resident governor of the colony; although it ended inconclusively, the Pequots retaliated by attacking any settler they could find. Fort Saybrook on the Connecticut River was besieged, and members of the garrison who ventured outside were ambushed and killed. One captured trader, tied to a stake in sight of the fort, was tortured for three days, expiring after his captors flayed his skin with the help of hot timbers and cut off his fingers and toes. Another prisoner was roasted alive.

The torture of prisoners was indeed routine practice for most Indian tribes, and was deeply ingrained in Indian culture. Valuing bravery above all things, the Indians had little sympathy for those who surrendered or were captured. Prisoners. unable to withstand the rigor of wilderness travel were usually killed on the spot. Among those—Indian or European—taken back to the village, some would be adopted to replace slain warriors, the rest subjected to a ritual of torture designed to humiliate them and exact atonement for the tribe’s losses. Afterward the Indians often consumed the body or parts of it in a ceremonial meal, and proudly displayed scalps and fingers as trophies of victory.”

http://hnn.us/articles/7302.html