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		<title>By: Awen</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/10/30/the-oklahoman-commits-hate-crime-against-indians/comment-page-2/#comment-20122</link>
		<dc:creator>Awen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Smile
I&#039;d be glad enough just to know he knows what we&#039;ve said here. Last time he responded to one of my e-mails, he was so ghastly cruel I kept it to look at it from time to time whenever I&#039;m feeling too soft towards him so I can remember what an asshole he is. This one has a mean streak you can drive a truck through. Perhaps you&#039;ll have better luck. Everything I say is always the wrong thing to him and everything he says to me is worse. My yahoo is annh0910ATyahooDOTcom
Talk to me, Smile. I need you far more than you could ever need me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Smile<br />
I&#8217;d be glad enough just to know he knows what we&#8217;ve said here. Last time he responded to one of my e-mails, he was so ghastly cruel I kept it to look at it from time to time whenever I&#8217;m feeling too soft towards him so I can remember what an asshole he is. This one has a mean streak you can drive a truck through. Perhaps you&#8217;ll have better luck. Everything I say is always the wrong thing to him and everything he says to me is worse. My yahoo is annh0910ATyahooDOTcom<br />
Talk to me, Smile. I need you far more than you could ever need me.</p>
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		<title>By: Smile</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/10/30/the-oklahoman-commits-hate-crime-against-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-20121</link>
		<dc:creator>Smile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dearest Awen,

Understood.

I do know it takes a lot of self discipline but I think you&#039;ll do just fine in taking a high ground and not sweating. I often have to bite my tongue in more situations then I care to think. I know you will.

That said, we need to get your words out. So, don&#039;t let this keep you from here. I won&#039;t know what to say without you :)

P.S. We can always send &#039;someone&#039; a private email... ;)  That can keep &#039;this&#039; seperate from &#039;that&#039;...

Hugs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dearest Awen,</p>
<p>Understood.</p>
<p>I do know it takes a lot of self discipline but I think you&#8217;ll do just fine in taking a high ground and not sweating. I often have to bite my tongue in more situations then I care to think. I know you will.</p>
<p>That said, we need to get your words out. So, don&#8217;t let this keep you from here. I won&#8217;t know what to say without you <img src='http://www.badeagle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>P.S. We can always send &#8217;someone&#8217; a private email&#8230; <img src='http://www.badeagle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   That can keep &#8216;this&#8217; seperate from &#8216;that&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>Hugs!</p>
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		<title>By: Awen</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/10/30/the-oklahoman-commits-hate-crime-against-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-20119</link>
		<dc:creator>Awen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Smile,

You are right, as usual. I shall pray on this very hard. I&#039;m not going to be coming around here until we can resolve this conflict and that will give everybody a break, at least from me. In the meantime, I won&#039;t play his game for him: I shan&#039;t be engaging in any character-assassination or virtual tarring and feathering either. I simply can&#039;t make myself want to.

 I believe a person&#039;s written words, once he has put them out in public media, should stand for themselves and we can let the readers come to their own conclusions as to their merit or lack of same. I think I am doing no disservice to Yeagley to offer him a little extra publicity for his work and he can&#039;t possibly object to all the places I&#039;m going to send it now.

As we say in Greek, one of my first languages,
είπαμε πολλά καί σώνει
άς λαλήσει άλλο ăηδόνι
we have said a lot and it suffices
let another nightingale sing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Smile,</p>
<p>You are right, as usual. I shall pray on this very hard. I&#8217;m not going to be coming around here until we can resolve this conflict and that will give everybody a break, at least from me. In the meantime, I won&#8217;t play his game for him: I shan&#8217;t be engaging in any character-assassination or virtual tarring and feathering either. I simply can&#8217;t make myself want to.</p>
<p> I believe a person&#8217;s written words, once he has put them out in public media, should stand for themselves and we can let the readers come to their own conclusions as to their merit or lack of same. I think I am doing no disservice to Yeagley to offer him a little extra publicity for his work and he can&#8217;t possibly object to all the places I&#8217;m going to send it now.</p>
<p>As we say in Greek, one of my first languages,<br />
είπαμε πολλά καί σώνει<br />
άς λαλήσει άλλο ăηδόνι<br />
we have said a lot and it suffices<br />
let another nightingale sing</p>
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		<title>By: Smile</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/10/30/the-oklahoman-commits-hate-crime-against-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-20117</link>
		<dc:creator>Smile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Awen</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/10/30/the-oklahoman-commits-hate-crime-against-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-20116</link>
		<dc:creator>Awen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Smile

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Smile</p>
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		<title>By: Smile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awen,

I&#039;ve read the article. I&#039;ll opine on it later. For now, I&#039;m waiting to hear from you and Dr. Yeagley.

I hope this finds you doing well and in good spirits.

I&#039;ll check back tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awen,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read the article. I&#8217;ll opine on it later. For now, I&#8217;m waiting to hear from you and Dr. Yeagley.</p>
<p>I hope this finds you doing well and in good spirits.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll check back tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Smile</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/10/30/the-oklahoman-commits-hate-crime-against-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-20114</link>
		<dc:creator>Smile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dearest Awen,
 
I haven&#039;t followed your link yet. I will when I&#039;m finished with this missive to you. I hardly know where to start. I pray that God will give me the correct words to sooth your soul and also encourage. Also the correct words from a friend, me, to remind you where you might be in error. I pray you&#039;ll hear and make wise choices. I will remain yours fondly, regardless of your choices.

it seems you&#039;ve been deeply wounded and mostly disappointed. I wish this were not so and I totally empathize with you.

Yet, who among us is perfect? Who among us is one dimensional? For instance, if you deal with me on one of my faults, it&#039;s not my whole story. There may well be other things about me that you admire much.

If you become aware of one of my faults (of which there are many) you would still find other things about me respectable and you wouldn&#039;t think me any less a woman.

I also want to remind you that two wrongs do not make a right. They never have, no matter how serious.

I sincerely believe that you should retract &quot;be a man&quot; and not use actions and threats to get him to do what you want. There are too many people in the country that will not at times be doing what you want, this can&#039;t be the way to handle a blog post that you despise. I understand this seems a bit more personal for you, then this would be even more so important. 

Please take a few moments to hear my heart.

I pray that you and Dr. Yeagley will resume discussion with forgiveness, patience, letting one another off the hook, and allowing that there are often differences with people. That is the way life is. But, we&#039;ll catch more flies with honey.

Now I&#039;ll go and read but I wrote this first as I feel these things are an imortant base regardless.

Please dry your tears, lets keep going, and try to imagine that you are getting a big hug from me to you. You have too much to offer to let this keep you down and...I need you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dearest Awen,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t followed your link yet. I will when I&#8217;m finished with this missive to you. I hardly know where to start. I pray that God will give me the correct words to sooth your soul and also encourage. Also the correct words from a friend, me, to remind you where you might be in error. I pray you&#8217;ll hear and make wise choices. I will remain yours fondly, regardless of your choices.</p>
<p>it seems you&#8217;ve been deeply wounded and mostly disappointed. I wish this were not so and I totally empathize with you.</p>
<p>Yet, who among us is perfect? Who among us is one dimensional? For instance, if you deal with me on one of my faults, it&#8217;s not my whole story. There may well be other things about me that you admire much.</p>
<p>If you become aware of one of my faults (of which there are many) you would still find other things about me respectable and you wouldn&#8217;t think me any less a woman.</p>
<p>I also want to remind you that two wrongs do not make a right. They never have, no matter how serious.</p>
<p>I sincerely believe that you should retract &#8220;be a man&#8221; and not use actions and threats to get him to do what you want. There are too many people in the country that will not at times be doing what you want, this can&#8217;t be the way to handle a blog post that you despise. I understand this seems a bit more personal for you, then this would be even more so important. </p>
<p>Please take a few moments to hear my heart.</p>
<p>I pray that you and Dr. Yeagley will resume discussion with forgiveness, patience, letting one another off the hook, and allowing that there are often differences with people. That is the way life is. But, we&#8217;ll catch more flies with honey.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;ll go and read but I wrote this first as I feel these things are an imortant base regardless.</p>
<p>Please dry your tears, lets keep going, and try to imagine that you are getting a big hug from me to you. You have too much to offer to let this keep you down and&#8230;I need you.</p>
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		<title>By: Awen</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/10/30/the-oklahoman-commits-hate-crime-against-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-20112</link>
		<dc:creator>Awen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Smile,

God bless you for your compassionate good sense and integrity. I have truly come to love you. I&#039;m supposed to be finishing an article on Hebrew language and I know I shan&#039;t be able to give my best to it, alas, until I have given my very worst to the object of my affections, which themselves are dying by the minute. Do you know what frightens me far more than caring too much for a person? It is if I were forced to find out that he is so much less a person than I thought he was, to realize with no hope of turning back the knowledge of it that my respect and caring have been spent on one so totally unworthy of them. I would honestly rather die than face this prospect now.

I want every white person reading here now, by accident or on purpose to go and read here:
http://www.badeagle.com/cgi-bin/ib3/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST&amp;f=15&amp;t=409

see what Yeagley has to say about your mothers, sisters, wives and daughters. How he denigrates and degrades them in public, cruelly injures people who have done him no harm.

@ Yeagley,

I expect you to delete this post when you have read it - in fact, I ask you to do so because it&#039;s the only chance I have to forget about this. I don&#039;t think I can forgive it at the moment; that depends entirely on what decision you make now.

My first question to you is: do you really want my mother to see this? Do you want me to show it to her today? You may delete my posts all you like but unless you delete that &#039;hate crime&#039; of a post this minute she shall know about this. Do you think I can hide from her why I&#039;m crying my eyes out today? She will forbid me ever to speak to you again through any medium and then, just for the hell of it, she&#039;ll bring the might of a political machine you haven&#039;t the least idea of right down on your head.  If you leave that filth where it stands, I can no longer give you the excuse of just a bad mood one day on a forum. You leave me no way to forget about it.

How can you call yourself a Christian and perpetrate such monstrous cruelty on a lot of helpless well-meaning women who haven&#039;t done you any harm at all? How can you even call yourself a man and take pot-shots at poor women, who are already oppressed and put-upon, from the dark corners of a forum? Do you always pick on the defenseless instead of an opponent your own size? I cannot make myself believe you are that bad; maybe that&#039;s only because I dare not believe it.

Under my hand now is my mother&#039;s rolodex and my, now-exhausted, hands have entered over two hundred e-mail addresses that she has in there. Senators, Congressmen, Mayors and County Sheriffs and every other kind of civil servant, state workers, clerks and all the Alphabet soup feds you can ask for. All major political Party workers, all the grassroots - which as you know are mainly nice hard-working ladies who will be horrified at how much you hate them. All the above shall receive this link.

I have the links to everything you have put online, where it has been passed around to other sites - and if I need help with that, DHS can supply whatever Mother asks for - in case you do not know they hire people with nothing better to do than spy on all of us, especially us Conservatives. And especially now, with the recent &#039;hate crimes&#039; legislation that will visit special wrath not only on nasty rhetoric against protected minority groups, but also protected &#039;genders.&#039; (bleeh! awful isn&#039;t it, what they do to the English language?) All the above again, shall receive this link, and awful shall be your fate; your own laundry lady will spit in your eye when we are done with you.

Because it is the least important of your worries, I am putting this one last: I will not forgive you because every time I see this piece of shit you wrote, I&#039;ll be hurt to the bone all over again. All my regard for you turns to ashes at the point where you refuse to act as a decent man and delete your foul screed and out of those ashes rises an enemy combatant. 

Now go and get rid of that crap if you have one decent bone in your body. Be a man, if you can. I don&#039;t care what you think of me because there&#039;s not a damn thing i can do about it anyhow but I do care very much what I think of you and I am truly enraged at you for taking that away from me too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Smile,</p>
<p>God bless you for your compassionate good sense and integrity. I have truly come to love you. I&#8217;m supposed to be finishing an article on Hebrew language and I know I shan&#8217;t be able to give my best to it, alas, until I have given my very worst to the object of my affections, which themselves are dying by the minute. Do you know what frightens me far more than caring too much for a person? It is if I were forced to find out that he is so much less a person than I thought he was, to realize with no hope of turning back the knowledge of it that my respect and caring have been spent on one so totally unworthy of them. I would honestly rather die than face this prospect now.</p>
<p>I want every white person reading here now, by accident or on purpose to go and read here:<br />
<a href="http://www.badeagle.com/cgi-bin/ib3/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST&amp;f=15&amp;t=409" rel="nofollow">http://www.badeagle.com/cgi-bin/ib3/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST&amp;f=15&amp;t=409</a></p>
<p>see what Yeagley has to say about your mothers, sisters, wives and daughters. How he denigrates and degrades them in public, cruelly injures people who have done him no harm.</p>
<p>@ Yeagley,</p>
<p>I expect you to delete this post when you have read it &#8211; in fact, I ask you to do so because it&#8217;s the only chance I have to forget about this. I don&#8217;t think I can forgive it at the moment; that depends entirely on what decision you make now.</p>
<p>My first question to you is: do you really want my mother to see this? Do you want me to show it to her today? You may delete my posts all you like but unless you delete that &#8216;hate crime&#8217; of a post this minute she shall know about this. Do you think I can hide from her why I&#8217;m crying my eyes out today? She will forbid me ever to speak to you again through any medium and then, just for the hell of it, she&#8217;ll bring the might of a political machine you haven&#8217;t the least idea of right down on your head.  If you leave that filth where it stands, I can no longer give you the excuse of just a bad mood one day on a forum. You leave me no way to forget about it.</p>
<p>How can you call yourself a Christian and perpetrate such monstrous cruelty on a lot of helpless well-meaning women who haven&#8217;t done you any harm at all? How can you even call yourself a man and take pot-shots at poor women, who are already oppressed and put-upon, from the dark corners of a forum? Do you always pick on the defenseless instead of an opponent your own size? I cannot make myself believe you are that bad; maybe that&#8217;s only because I dare not believe it.</p>
<p>Under my hand now is my mother&#8217;s rolodex and my, now-exhausted, hands have entered over two hundred e-mail addresses that she has in there. Senators, Congressmen, Mayors and County Sheriffs and every other kind of civil servant, state workers, clerks and all the Alphabet soup feds you can ask for. All major political Party workers, all the grassroots &#8211; which as you know are mainly nice hard-working ladies who will be horrified at how much you hate them. All the above shall receive this link.</p>
<p>I have the links to everything you have put online, where it has been passed around to other sites &#8211; and if I need help with that, DHS can supply whatever Mother asks for &#8211; in case you do not know they hire people with nothing better to do than spy on all of us, especially us Conservatives. And especially now, with the recent &#8216;hate crimes&#8217; legislation that will visit special wrath not only on nasty rhetoric against protected minority groups, but also protected &#8216;genders.&#8217; (bleeh! awful isn&#8217;t it, what they do to the English language?) All the above again, shall receive this link, and awful shall be your fate; your own laundry lady will spit in your eye when we are done with you.</p>
<p>Because it is the least important of your worries, I am putting this one last: I will not forgive you because every time I see this piece of shit you wrote, I&#8217;ll be hurt to the bone all over again. All my regard for you turns to ashes at the point where you refuse to act as a decent man and delete your foul screed and out of those ashes rises an enemy combatant. </p>
<p>Now go and get rid of that crap if you have one decent bone in your body. Be a man, if you can. I don&#8217;t care what you think of me because there&#8217;s not a damn thing i can do about it anyhow but I do care very much what I think of you and I am truly enraged at you for taking that away from me too.</p>
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		<title>By: Smile</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/10/30/the-oklahoman-commits-hate-crime-against-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-20109</link>
		<dc:creator>Smile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maybe if you thought of yourself as an American who’s being forced to be an alien Communist, you’d have a inkling of the issue.&quot; 

There&#039;s no maybe. There&#039;s no if. It is clear that so vast a number of Americans are disgusted with this &quot;forced&quot; situation that it stalled that &#039;emergency, rush to fix health care&#039; takeover. By this standard, many must have an &quot;inkling.&quot;

I&#039;m going to take the liberty of rewording this:
However, at this point, AMERICANS have to recognize and face our own problems. If we cannot do this, then we are left forever to the charity and kindness of others. This is a most humbled position.

Nevertheless, AMERICANS will never surrender the idea of sovereignty. However duped and doped we may appear and may be, there is that one element in our consciousness, our hearts, our intuition, that will never be remove. We are AMERICANS. This is what is most important to us. When we perceive that to be threatened, we are then unapproachable by any motive. The charity that would destroy our identity is not charity we can afford to accept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe if you thought of yourself as an American who’s being forced to be an alien Communist, you’d have a inkling of the issue.&#8221; </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no maybe. There&#8217;s no if. It is clear that so vast a number of Americans are disgusted with this &#8220;forced&#8221; situation that it stalled that &#8216;emergency, rush to fix health care&#8217; takeover. By this standard, many must have an &#8220;inkling.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to take the liberty of rewording this:<br />
However, at this point, AMERICANS have to recognize and face our own problems. If we cannot do this, then we are left forever to the charity and kindness of others. This is a most humbled position.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, AMERICANS will never surrender the idea of sovereignty. However duped and doped we may appear and may be, there is that one element in our consciousness, our hearts, our intuition, that will never be remove. We are AMERICANS. This is what is most important to us. When we perceive that to be threatened, we are then unapproachable by any motive. The charity that would destroy our identity is not charity we can afford to accept.</p>
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		<title>By: Smile</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/10/30/the-oklahoman-commits-hate-crime-against-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-20108</link>
		<dc:creator>Smile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sincerely hope we can stay on this topic thread long enough to hash through these important issues.

We can handle a bit of discomfort while allowing for exchange. 

Questions: What are the basics for a successful nation? Does the USA have that in her founding documents? Why would the basics be different for any other nation, while expecting success? Can a tribe be a tribe and yet be a citizen of the USA, or does it require being a separate nation? What is a sovereign people and should all people in this country be sovereign?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sincerely hope we can stay on this topic thread long enough to hash through these important issues.</p>
<p>We can handle a bit of discomfort while allowing for exchange. </p>
<p>Questions: What are the basics for a successful nation? Does the USA have that in her founding documents? Why would the basics be different for any other nation, while expecting success? Can a tribe be a tribe and yet be a citizen of the USA, or does it require being a separate nation? What is a sovereign people and should all people in this country be sovereign?</p>
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