David Yeagley is the great-great-grandson of Comanche leader Bad Eagle. 
Jewish people do not control the media. Certainly not the Associate Press wires. Look at this latest headline:
Israeli police storm Jerusalem’s holiest site
Immediately our hearts stop, as we wonder what those evil Israeli police could be doing, what sacrilege those wicked Jews could be up to. Invading the “holiest site” in Jerusalem! Just think of it.
“Palestinian” youth, wondrous devotees, noble defenders of the Islamic cult, elevated spiritual champions, throw rocks at the Israeli police whom they have intentionally provoked. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit)
Then we find that the specific site in questioned isn’t a Jewish site, did not involve Jewish people, and is not a site considered holy by Jewish people.
You guessed it. It’s an Islamic mosque, a Muslim issue, again. It’s “Palestinians” at it again, making anti-Jewish headlines for an eager press, ever so anxious to malign and misrepresent the Jews.
Not until the fourth paragraph of the AP wire do we get something that might represent the truth.
Israel’s national police chief, David Cohen, accused a small group of Muslim extremists of trying to foment violence — echoing a charge made by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu two weeks ago.
“The police will act with a strong hand against anyone who disrupts order on the Temple Mount and against those incite to riot,” Cohen said.
So, the “Palestinians” created a ruckus, to provoke Israeli police, to get a headline against the Jews? That’s certainly what happened. The AP headline wants everyone to think that Jews are sacrilegious devils, quick and happy to commit blasphemy, to denigrate anything holy, to totally trash others. Look at the headline again.
Israeli police storm Jerusalem’s holiest site
This time, consider the author: Rawhi Razim. If knowing the headline was an AP wire wasn’t enough, we could have noted the fact that the author is a very carefully obscured personage, obviously Arab, and no doubt Muslim. We know that in 2001 or 2002, a “Rawhi Kazim” was working for the Islamic Association for Palestine, in Mississaugua, Ontario (Canada). Google identifies the IAP as an Islamic terrorist site on the web. There are even YouTube clips of some of their public meetings here in the United States. It’s all about killing the Jews.
So, I don’t think it is likely that the Associated Press would be controlled by the Jews, as anti-Zionists love to claim.
But, the important theological issue inherent here is the matter of the holy. “Jerusalem’s holiest site,” as “Palestinian” terrorist Rawhi Kazim calls it. It is clear he refers to the black-domed Al-Aqsa mosque on the Temple Mount (the site of the 2nd Temple of the Jews, razed to the ground by the Roman Titus, in 70 AD).
Obviously, there is nothing holy about any Islamic mosque. There is nothing holy about anything man declares holy. Man does not have power over the holy. People that make this claim have a totally false concept of what it holy. As man uses the term, it is an egotistical, sociological power grab, of one kind or another. Declare something holy, and you can control all logistics pertaining to it. You can control people, kill people, create war, etc. All because you say the person, place, or thing, is “holy.”
In the Bible, the Jewish account of the living Creator, only God Himself has power to make anything holy, or to declare anything holy. In this, the Jewish religion is distinct from all others. Even in concept, the holy is something “wholly other” than man, than man’s mind, than man’s power. Man cannot create the holy. Man simply cannot make anything holy, or declare it to be such. He can merely act like it is holy. He can only seek to control behavior–based on such a claim.
Wrong ideas of the holy create wrong social relationships, wrong centers of power, and wrong behavior. Wrong ideas of the holy create war, often. This is the Muslim hold on the world, in their minds. It is completely false, arrogant, and maniacal. It is a perversion of man’s natural intuition of the existence of something beyond himself, something greater than himself, something “holy.”
I have written a scholarly research book about the holy. I have studied the subject in detail. (In January, 2007, the first edition of my book, Altered States, appeared on Amazon.com. Unaccountably, it was not available, but a false advertisement. August, 2007, an available edition appeared. Unfortunately, this edition was sized incorrectly, and the pagination made the index irrelevant (i.e., incorrect). There were numerous typographical errors as well. In the near future, a third and final edition will be available.) The full title of the book is, Altered States: The State of the Dead, and the State of the Holy. I feel that the proper, objective understanding of the holy is critically important, especially at this time in history, when what is truly sacred and honorable is being blasphemed and denigrated on a daily basis, while that which is artificial, arrogant, and manipulative, is being coerced upon humanity by the power brokers of the world–Communists, Muslims, and global capitalists alike.
I say, beware the claim of holy. Find out what is holy, where the idea came from, what it means, and how it is to function in the world. Study, research, make the effort to know. The false claim of holy is the foundation for all ills in the world. It is a simply matter of priorities. It is a clear case of psychological hierarchies. More on this latter.
For now, just note that the “Palestinian” terrorist headline, by Mr. Rawhi Kazim, and the first four paragraphs of his story, are as false and intentionally misleading as a false concept of the holy could make them.
And, to be “fair” to the Associate Press, they do have a Jewish version of the story: Violent clashes erupt at Jerusalem’s holiest site, by Matti Friedman. At least Friedman’s account is objective–the major feat in reporting a “Palestinian” story.
36 responses so far ↓
1 David Yeagley // Oct 25, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Those who worship any the the true God naturally have false ideas of the holy. Of course, this truth does not make sense to anyone who has neither knowledge of the true God, nor of the holy.
2 Smile // Oct 25, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Thanks for the reminder on your book.
Nice article! This is a perfect example of how the AP is hardly controlled by Jews.
3 David Yeagley // Oct 25, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I can appreciate anyone’s religious sentiments. Religious intuition is a deep, powerful thing. But, when translated into mere and brutal force, into cruel coercion, then it is not religion at all. It is Freudian “libido,” or, unmanaged energy. It is consumptive, and a curse to everyone.
This business of commanding this or that to be holy, at will, at whim, even, is a ridiculous farce, generally speaking. It isn’t always violent or detrimental, but, when leaders of such farce have the power, they do make it detrimental for all who don’t recognize their “holiness.”
4 beakerkin // Oct 26, 2009 at 3:23 am
I have to check this one out. However, it seems that the phrase Al Quds comes from the term Mikdash or temple. So much for Arab denial of history.
5 David Yeagley // Oct 26, 2009 at 9:33 am
Check out Rawhi Kazim. Slippery character.
And, it can’t be that any “Jews” would actively, violently destory Israel, can it? Why would the AP otherwise give such a voice to Kazim, trying to inflame passions against Israel, against Jews?
6 Awen // Oct 26, 2009 at 1:49 pm
This is just what all the Jew-watchers always get wrong. Being ethnically Jewish does not mean by extension that one is pro-Israel. A lot of American Jews (mostly Ashkenazim) are liberals and liberals are always on the opposite side of whichever they think normal Americans are on. During the last Presidential campaign, the Jerusalem Post reflected this as a matter of concern to Israel and some of the comments warned of a political generation gap among American Jews, showing the younger generation to be more conservative and the older still stuck in the 1960’s waving peace signs – whilst setting fire to school buildings and such, of course. And surely whoever the ‘investors’ are, funding both sides of the Mid-East conflict, they’re an “equal-opportunity” ethnic mix and probably all atheists to boot.
7 David Yeagley // Oct 26, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Now, here’s some interesting headlines, AP, again–as presented by WorldNetDaily!
Palestinians attack Jewish police at Temple Mount
Protesters hurl fire bomb, rocks, run for cover into mosque
–Associated Press
(Well, forget this one. It’s Kazim’s article.)
Temple Mount riots part of Arab agenda?
Aaron Klein. WorldNetDaily.
Aaron Klein to debate Arabs about Temple Mount, on AlJazeera. Here is an online program schedule.
Such a tangled tale. The truth is countered, every sentence, every syllable. This is the way of the lie. It is a counterfeit of the truth.
8 Awen // Oct 26, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I bet the MSM won’t show these beautiful Israeli soldiers. They look like little girls! And they’re facing such monsters. Even American libs might have a problem with this:
http://www.yeeeeee.com/2008/10/27/beautiful-israeli-women-soldiers-206-pics/
9 David Yeagley // Oct 26, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Beautiful. Reminds me of the two Israeli girls who performed the debut of one of my chamber works in Caeserea, in 1998. They came to rehearsals in their army clothes. Eighteen, nineteen years old. They were at the Rubin Conservatory, in the University of Tel Aviv.
Two years of military service is required of all young people in Israel. It is part of life, part of being Israeli.
It is a strong people, Awen. Very strong. They are surrounded, not by strength, but maniacal hate, obssessive desperation, mechanical negativism, and disdain for life. This is not strength. This is envy and fear. Poor Arabs. Terrible state of being.
10 Awen // Oct 26, 2009 at 9:38 pm
With Assia Davidov, Rubin, Tel Aviv, wonder how on earth they managed this effect:
http://www.assiadavidov.com/resources/_wsb_500×329_Aida-2-kleiner.jpg
Maybe it’s a little safer these days to say, AP is run by Jews than to suggest it’s really run by the government?
Our new DHS Senior Policy Advisor, Kareem Shora?
“Washington, DC | October 15, 2009 | http://www.adc.org | The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination (ADC) offers its most heartfelt gratitude and appreciation to Kareem Shora, ADC National Executive Director, for his ten years of exceptional service to ADC and to the Arab-American community. Shora, who earlier this year was sworn-in by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano as a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC), has been appointed as Senior Policy Adviser for the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and will be leaving ADC as of October 23. ADC congratulates Kareem on his new position, wishes him the very best, and knows he will continue to be successful in the future.”
http://www.adc.org/index.php?id=3512
Assistant Secretary DHS, Arif Alikhan?
“Arif Alikhan, currently deputy mayor for the city of Los Angeles, was appointed as assistant secretary for the Office of Policy Development at the Department of Homeland Security.
Muslim Democrats welcome Alikhan’s appointment
At a banquet/fundraiser for the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California last weekend, the first speaker was Arif Alikhan (Deputy Mayor of Los Angeles – in charge of public safety for the city). He bid farewell, as he is going to take a post as Assistant Secretary at the Department of Homeland Security. Arif Alikhan is a devout Sunni and the son of Pakistani immigrants (here).
….speakers included Arif Ali Khan, the former Deputy Mayor of Los Angeles. He bid the attendees farewell as he prepared to leave the Los Angeles area for Washington, D. C. There he will serve as Assistant Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).”
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/06/obama-appointment-arif-ali-khan-asst-secretary-dhs.html
11 Awen // Oct 26, 2009 at 9:47 pm
http://www.assiadavidov.com/resources/_wsb_500×329_Aida-2-kleiner.jpg
Assia Davidov, Rubin, Tel Aviv
Wonder how they managed that effect
Maybe it’s a little safer these days to say the AP is controlled by Jews than to suggest it’s controlled by the government instead?
Arif Alikhan, Asst. Secretary DHS?
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/06/obama-appointment-arif-ali-khan-asst-secretary-dhs.html
“Arif Alikhan, currently deputy mayor for the city of Los Angeles, was appointed as assistant secretary for the Office of Policy Development at the Department of Homeland Security.
Kareem Shora. DHD senior Policy Advisor?
http://www.adc.org/index.php?id=3512
“Washington, DC | October 15, 2009 | http://www.adc.org | The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination (ADC) offers its most heartfelt gratitude and appreciation to Kareem Shora, ADC National Executive Director, for his ten years of exceptional service to ADC and to the Arab-American community. Shora, who earlier this year was sworn-in by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano as a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC), has been appointed as Senior Policy Adviser for the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and will be leaving ADC as of October 23. ADC congratulates Kareem on his new position, wishes him the very best, and knows he will continue to be successful in the future.”
Muslim Democrats welcome Alikhan’s appointment”
yeah, I’ll bet they do.
12 Awen // Oct 26, 2009 at 9:55 pm
May it’s a little safer these days to say the AP is run by the Jews than to suggest it’s really controlled by the government?
Our latest DHS appointments:
“Washington, DC | October 15, 2009 | http://www.adc.org | The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination (ADC) offers its most heartfelt gratitude and appreciation to Kareem Shora, ADC National Executive Director, for his ten years of exceptional service to ADC and to the Arab-American community. Shora, who earlier this year was sworn-in by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano as a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC), has been appointed as Senior Policy Adviser for the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and will be leaving ADC as of October 23. ADC congratulates Kareem on his new position, wishes him the very best, and knows he will continue to be successful in the future.”
http://www.adc.org/index.php?id=3512
“Arif Alikhan, currently deputy mayor for the city of Los Angeles, was appointed as assistant secretary for the Office of Policy Development at the Department of Homeland Security.
Muslim Democrats welcome Alikhan’s appointment.
“At a banquet/fundraiser for the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California last weekend, the first speaker was Arif Alikhan (Deputy Mayor of Los Angeles – in charge of public safety for the city). He bid farewell, as he is going to take a post as Assistant Secretary at the Department of Homeland Security. Arif Alikhan is a devout Sunni and the son of Pakistani immigrants
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/06/obama-appointment-arif-ali-khan-asst-secretary-dhs.html
13 Awen // Oct 26, 2009 at 10:00 pm
That was supposed to be ‘maybe’ not ‘may’ but I had so much trouble getting this post in here, I’ll be glad it arrived at all. (was starting to get paranoid…..) Tried it about four times and it wouldn’t show up.
14 Natty Bumppo // Oct 26, 2009 at 11:17 pm
David Meir-Levi’s book History Upside Down is all you need to know about what the Arabs are up to, and have been up to for decades if not centuries, if not over a millennium.
It’s also a good primer for understanding all of world history, current events and human nature itself, if I may be so bold as to say so.
Aaron Klein is riding the new wave of the Right. He is breaking crucial news stories left and right, so to speak, even if he doesn’t get the recognition he deserves from Glen Beck. Beck has been known, according to Klein, to “break” his stories without attributing them Klein’s own research. And now Klein will debate the Arabs on Al Jazeera? Wow, that reminds me of the time he accompanied Rusty Humphries, both unarmed, to interview members of the heavily armed Al Aksa Martyrs Brigade (The militant wing of Fatah). Rusty had them fingering their AK triggers with indignation when he implied, with irrefutable historical accuracy, that Yes Sir Arafat was a pedophile. Later, once the tension had subsided some, Rusty had the “Martyrs” laughing. Who else does such stuff? Go Aaron and Rusty! Do your thing! (Aaron is a frequent guest on The Rusty Humphries Show.) And, Glenn, give credit where credit is due next time, PLEASE!
15 Awen // Oct 27, 2009 at 12:09 am
“Those who fight for freedom of worship, but are quiet when Jews are shamed and bullied when they attempt to ascend the Mount, damage the cause of justice and morality. Those who claim that ‘terrorists should not be rewarded’ when it comes to a liberal cause, but here claim that we cannot ascend the Mount because of ‘Muslim violence,’ those who say that ‘the time is not right,’ but never seem to be able to find the right time, are committing terrible acts against the cause of justice – and still expect to be rewarded! This attitude is the same that disapproves of police violence only if you are the victim, or protests against freedom of speech when the people being kept quiet are the ones you don’t like. This hypocrisy hurts us all, right and left. Anyone who does profess those values of fighting for truth and justice has an obligation to fight in this instance, as well.”
Rabbi Yuval Cherlow, head of the Yeshivat Hesder in Petach Tikvah
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/134066
Must see article:
The Region: The big American freeze
By Barry Rubin
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1256150048671&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
a snip:
“PA leader Mahmoud Abbas is not going to back down on his demand. He is more afraid of his own colleagues, Hamas’s baiting him as a “moderate” (a compliment perhaps from the West but a deadly insult in Palestinian politics) and his own people than of Obama. Indeed, nobody is afraid of Obama, which is one of the main problems with his foreign policy. ”
(hehehe)
16 Smile // Oct 27, 2009 at 7:54 am
It is said that the poor will be with us always. So it is with these usurpers. They don’t discriminate in this area, the only area in which ‘they’ don’t discriminate: The usurpers of education, business, freedom, liberty, the law, and even religion. There is nothing that is exempt from the efforts of infiltration, manipulation, and control: See the examples of ‘main stream media’ and now they want control of the www in the form of Net Neutrality. Of course it has a cute ‘let me help you’ sounding label: workers party, New Party, social reform, health reform, et al.
As Dr. Yeagley pointed out in a recent article, it’s a current push for an old ideology. Perhaps nothing new under the sun?
I’m not embarrassed to say I’m pro Israel. This doesn’t mean one agrees with everything they do. It does mean that they should be protected from those who would eliminate their existence.
It has become almost boring to hear the continual cry of ‘in the name of whatever religion’ as a mask for hatred. The thing that this ideology actually worships is hatred itself. They give themselves permission to do anything in the name of their hatred. By any means necessary: Plenty of dots to connect there.
17 Awen // Oct 27, 2009 at 9:48 am
Smile,
As you say, there are plenty of dots and I really want to play but Herr Doktor Yeagley doesn’t like me at all and will single me out for his wrath. Thanks you for being so nice to me, by the way; that much mitigated the bash on the head I got later. Do you know I haven’t even slept an hour since then?
Some of my relatives used to tell me about a fundamental difference between us and the VC during the Vietnam conflict: when an American got wounded, there would be two to three men out of commission at that point taking care of him and getting him out of harm’s way. When somebody got wounded on the VC side, they’d just step on him and keep going. Obviously we were somewhat at a disadvantage there – of course, we’d still have wasted the lot of them had our politicians stayed the hell out of military affairs and let us actually fight that war.
Now Israel, and all of us in the civilized world, are in the same position and the really scary thing to me is, that whilst Israel knows perfectly well what has to be done, we Americans haven’t learnt a damned thing! Well, to qualify that, those who actually fought that war know it well enough but those guys get shoved under a rug after they’re bled out defending us instead of being allowed to lead us to victory. It really should be a requirement for a national leader that he be not only a veteran but a combat veteran who REALLY understands that freedom is not free.
18 whitetrash // Oct 27, 2009 at 1:41 pm
As long as crackpots go to PRISON just for denying the Holocaust, I will view Jews in the West with great suspicion. Consequently, I am inclined to give the Arabs the benefit of the doubt when it comes to Israel.
19 David Yeagley // Oct 27, 2009 at 2:48 pm
The Arab “doubt” is that Israel has no right to exist. Of course, they claim Jews are free to live, so to speak, but not as a nation. That’s the excuse in their minds, somehow molifying their murderous designs and intents.
Perhaps we should say no Arab nation has the right to exist, as a nation. Their nations are all artificial anyway, carved out by British rule, according to economic/social needs of what, a hundred years ago? There’s no such thing as an “Arab” nation, really. Never was. Tribal people, all over. All kinds of Muslims, and historical Arab integration. But an “Arab” nation? Since when?
20 beakerkin // Oct 27, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Obviously White Trash is uneducated. Start reading Arab history and think again. Even pro America types do not defend Jim Crow or crimes against Native Americans. Arabs have a brutal colonial history and they are victims only in their own delusions or that of psycho Marxist death cultists.
21 whitetrash // Oct 27, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Educate me, Beakerkin. Defend sending some Jew hating kook to jail for denying the Holocaust. And explain to me how a people who can support that are above persecuting a people within their midst and stealing their land. Cause that shrieks a sense of entitlement to me.
I really curious to hear your educated reply. Assuming you can produce something more than tedious pejorative.
22 whitetrash // Oct 27, 2009 at 9:51 pm
“Perhaps we should say no Arab nation has the right to exist, as a nation. Their nations are all artificial anyway, carved out by British rule, according to economic/social needs of what, a hundred years ago?”
But aren’t the Jews and the Arabs semites? Israel was carved out by Zionists in the 20th century. How is the Jewish claim to the land superior to the Arab claim?
If the Jews can take it and hold it, good for them. That’s the way of the world. America was built on the same principle. But this moral outrage toward the Arabs seems misplaced to me. It’s not our fight.
23 Awen // Oct 28, 2009 at 8:41 am
whitetrash,
We’re dealing with two separate issues here. I know it seems like it’s the same people involved but you’re forgetting that people of the same moral type have more in common with each other and are more likely to band together towards the same ends than those of the same nationality, ethnic group or religion.
This one widespread misunderstanding, this temptation to take easy preset designations of bloodline, religion, ethnic group and education level to define the differences between us is no longer just a case of mental laziness that intelligent people can ignore; it is a mortal danger to us as a nation for it renders us blind to the machinations of our real adversaries.
Certainly it is an outrage that a man could be jailed for disagreeing with the generally accepted account of the Holocaust, and there were a good many Jews who didn’t like that any more than we do, but Red Nancy Pelosi would like to do the same thing to you and all the rest of us here just for being Conservatives and she’s a Californio Catholic. Look at our Congress critters, themselves an ethnically divers bunch, who have gone beyond Orwellian in their demented dreams of control over the lives of others.
I know our Federal Reserve Board looks like an invitation list to a bar mitzvah but so do our Symphony Boards. It was not a Jewish American President who signed away America’s financial independence to a corrupt private corporation but a nominally Christian one. And who worked so hard to expose that, even when he was ill and dying? Aaron Russo, a Jewish film producer who brought us “The Money Masters” and “America – Freedom to Fascism.”
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173&ei=MnlASbkCk-6oArTp0Ss&q=freedom+to+fascism
Who do you think finances both sides of the present conflict in the Middle east? If America is so devoted to the rights of Israel, somebody better run tell the fighting Israelis for they have seen damn little evidence of that! Where are the ‘Jewish’ bankers when Israel needs money? What about the influence of the American Jewish community? They are as divers and divided as every other group in America and far too many Jewish academics, along with every other ethnic type, are on the other side, outright terrorist sympathizers, and teaching communism in the classrooms, with plenty of Israel and America-bashing for side-dishes.
And in the meantime, the Dark Ages creep closer and closer, for this is not a new war but an old one; it is the war between civilization and chaos.
24 whitetrash // Oct 28, 2009 at 9:22 am
Awen,
Your wrote: “And in the meantime, the Dark Ages creep closer and closer, for this is not a new war but an old one; it is the war between civilization and chaos.”
I have found myself pondering the same thing.
But if we recognize the diversity of thought among the Jews, then by what process of rational thought do we conclude the Arabs are a blood thirsty monolith?
25 Smile // Oct 28, 2009 at 10:21 am
@whitetrash
It seems to me that you are highly intelligent.
Perhaps we can conclude that your user name isn’t an after thought but something more intentional.
When we consider all the issues, it’s very telling when we consider the issues some take offense at. You have taken a special offense at a Holocaust denier being jailed. Considering the level of rhetoric against the nation of Israel and the history of the Jewish people…one can understand why many have empathy for their concern about that issue, but I hope not to stray too far off topic.
Speaking of off topic, there is a tactic that’s comparable but far more intentional. It’s the tactic of distraction.
So, my question to you is: Why do you think the AP continues in this misleading fashion?
26 Awen // Oct 28, 2009 at 10:25 am
whitetrash,
I don’t think anyone here concludes any such thing, and I least of all, having eaten my very first foods in babyhood at an Arabic table. My own godmother was a Lebanese Maronite Catholic who helped raise me. You’d be surprised how many Navajos insisted on keeping our Om Khoulsoum and Fairuz recordings too. (Now I like Diana Hadad and Rayan too, and everybody likes Cheb Khaled) A people who can sing like THAT have something special to offer and for certain our own Southwestern desert hearts answered to it.
Even Old Mo wasn’t 100% bad. There’s a story about him when he was getting up to go to prayers and his favourite little cat had fallen asleep in his sleeve. So he cut off his sleeve to avoid disturbing the kitty cat. We’ve all heard some horrible stories about the things some Muslims will do their enemies but no ghastly accounts of cruelty to the kitties; them they have to respect. Interesting, isn’t it?
It is fundies, all of them, that are a real pain the butt to everybody. Demented, primitive ideologies that should have been left in the Dark Ages whence they come. Yes, coming from such a warlike heritage, a Muslim tribal fundie goes for murder more often than a ‘fire and brimstone’ Christian but otherwise, there’s not a lot of difference between the Taliban and say, Warren Jeffs the Mormon pervert and his bevy of teen-aged brides.
Have you noticed the media silence about the active persecution of the Chaldean Christians in Iraq, the trafficking of Christian slaves by Black Muslims in Nigeria and Sudan, the destruction of Christian upper class society in Lebanon, the execution of Christian converts in Afghanistan, even the war against the Baha’i ruling class in Iran?
27 Smile // Oct 28, 2009 at 10:36 am
@Awen
Awww. I am not noticing that Dr. Yeagley “doesn’t like” you or singles you out for his wrath. IMO, just the opposite. But I’ll keep an eye on him
You’re easy to be nice to, I’m sure most agree.
Again, I appreciate all of your info, though it takes extra effort to tie things into the topic at hand.
Tying my post to the topic, it’s important to recognize the actual versus the perceived.
So, please keep up your wonderful dialog, Awen. I imagine there’s much goodwill.
28 Awen // Oct 28, 2009 at 10:55 am
@ Smile
Ha ha! Well there’s no reason to expect a poor reservation widow with an obvious crush on the guy to behave logically 100% of the time either, is there?
Can I address your question about the AP distractions too? There really is a ‘new world order’ afoot and Aaron Russo did an outstanding job in “America – Freedom to Fascism” of proving it. Did you see that?
29 Awen // Oct 28, 2009 at 12:55 pm
I just noticed all those missing posts of mine about the DHS appointees have suddenly showed up here so I have three repeats. Can someone please delete the copies? We don’t have a way to do that here ourselves, do we?
You all have to see this:
“This report includes:
* Video footage of the 36 video news releases documented in this report, plus footage showing how actual TV newscasts incorporated them and/or a related satellite media tours.
* A map showing the locations of the 77 television stations throughout the United States that aired this fake news.
* An itemized list of the 77 television stations that aired this fake news, by state.”
http://www.prwatch.org/fakenews/execsummary
It happens all the time. They’re called ‘press releases’ and the masses believe them.
And then, there’s “Paliwood” Canned “news” bought up by the stations and broadcast to us as if it were real news. See these and decide for yourselves:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7332726655958371305#
30 whitetrash // Oct 28, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Smile,
Your wrote: “When we consider all the issues, it’s very telling when we consider the issues some take offense at. You have taken a special offense at a Holocaust denier being jailed.”
I take special offense at the persecution of any human being for speaking their mind, even if they are mindless haters. I am deeply suspicious of any group that attempts to suppress speech as a matter of advancing or protecting their own interests. I don’t care who they are or what their history is.
In this matter of the Holocaust, which is the historical justification for the founding of Israel, I would expect most interested Jews to take on all comers in terms of Holocaust denial. Yet several Western Nations have these laws. As Awen pointed out, Jews are as diverse in thought as any ethnic group, but one has to ponder the small number of Jews in Europe and Canada along with the emergence of these laws. Somebody had to push for this. That suggests that the debate within the group was hardly robust. Leaving me to ask, why did they push for these laws? To avoid offense? Or to hide something?
31 Smile // Oct 28, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Awen, I didn’t see the film. I’ll make a point to see. I have looked at the subject a little and think it has plenty of merit, though there’s the fringe loonies to avoid as well.
Look whitetrash, it seems you’ve repeated yourself but didn’t notice: my question, which was the topic as well. As to the point you made and repeated, I’ll assume you have a problem with President Obama’s “persecution” of those who are “speaking their mind.”
32 Smile // Oct 28, 2009 at 8:19 pm
@Awen
And what should we do, be afraid, very afraid? This may require gov’t intervention as it’s a…a…why. I think it’s an epidemic.
I say we change the channel and stand for Liberty! We (ourselves) should be teaching as we go in, out, and while we’re in the way.
The propaganda of a certification is in the results. We can see that ‘they’ are not teaching.
Obviously, we know there’s a lot of misinformation out there. This is hope and change.: We must take charge for ourselves.
33 Awen // Oct 29, 2009 at 12:26 am
@ Smile
Being very afraid is a good start if we’re the kind who get motivated by it instead of paralyzed. When it is no longer readily apparent who’s on which side with all these little wars we have going on, something is definitely amiss.
We should keep an eye on Israel; I think it’s going to be sold out. Israel became something quite unique when those people formed a nation and had to fight almost daily ever since to keep what they had. They became something apart from the network of Jews in Europe and America, apart from the UN cliques, apart from the EU overlords in Brussels, thinking for themselves and no longer toeing anybody else’s line. I’m talking about Israeli people now, not necessarily their leaders. I cannot get rid of the feeling that they are to be punished for this independence of spirit.
America is not in the service of Israel; America threatens Israel. It looks like ‘talks’ about peace we have with them but the result is always that Israel has to give up something, not the enemies of Israel. Let me ask you this: if you had a neighbour who could not restrain himself from taking pot-shots at you and your family, would you not deal with that one? And if he managed to kill one of you, would you not drive him and his out of your area entirely? I surely would do that myself; more likely I would leave a scorched spot in the earth where he and his used to be. Why has Israel not done this? They are not saints any more than the rest of us; surely their patience must have come to an end long ago.
Now that I’ve brought in that “Paliwood,” we have another ridiculous idea coming out of our farce of an Administration that goes with it in an eerie way and that can only be described as insane. A snip or two:
“WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Securities exchanges have a sound network back-up if a severe pandemic keeps people home and clogging the Internet, but the Homeland Security Department has done little planning, Congressional investigators said on Monday.
The department does not even have a plan to start work on the issue, the General Accountability Office said.
But the Homeland Security Department accused the GAO of having unrealistic expectations of how the Internet could be managed if millions began to telework from home at the same time as bored or sick schoolchildren were playing online, sucking up valuable bandwidth.”
“Private Internet providers might need government authorization to block popular websites, it said, or to reduce residential transmission speeds to make way for commerce.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2620750120091026
Have you ever heard a lamer excuse in your life for shutting down our access to information??!! We’re not buying their canned “press releases” and now they want to shut down the Internet! Because of a “flu” epidemic that is already winding down and they’re pissed because they couldn’t get enough of their nasty vaccines ready to finish us off in time. There, friends, is the truth.
We have arrived at the moment to have to do a lot more than morally ’stand’ for freedom; we are going to have to wrest it away from the greedy claws presently choking the life out of it. .
34 Smile // Oct 29, 2009 at 7:00 am
“Private Internet providers might need government authorization to block popular websites, it said, or to reduce residential transmission speeds to make way for commerce.”
Knock, knock.
Whose there?
Gov’t.
Gov’t who?
Your gov’t whose here to help.
“Private Internet providers might need government authorization… Have you ever heard a lamer excuse in your life…??!!” There’s dumb and dumber, I guess lame and lamer as well: ‘Too big to fail… Oh, and the ever so cute attempt to shut down access to information via a claim that Fox News is biased. Valerie Jarrett claims the administration is clear about “speaking truth to power.” But these same people claim Fox News is fringe. Hmm, but now Fox News is the power? Umm, ha, ha? Valerie Jarrett now claims that Fox News is the power and she/they are the speaker. Phunny how Valerie Jarrett/they avoid the fact that the power is them: Valerie Jarrett and this administration. Of course there could be an argument for the POTUS no longer being the most powerful person… seeing that this one is so hell bent on spreading the sovereignty around.
What Valerie Jarrett and this administration speak out clearly about is the news that Fox reports that isn’t being reported on any of the other television/cable ‘news’ channels. This is why she was struck dumber by the question as to why they don’t have a problem with msnbc bias. Mmm, mmm, mmm, msnbc!
But we can give Val a pass. Obviously she/they mean to say, power speaks to truth. Those in power, Val and her comrades, are speaking to truth in order to control what gets out to we the people.
The actual versus the perceived? But quick, look elsewhere, they may even offer you the Ginsu knives for FREE!
35 whitetrash // Oct 29, 2009 at 9:05 am
“I’ll assume you have a problem with President Obama’s “persecution” of those who are “speaking their mind.””
Absolutely. The Obama administration’s attack on Fox News and especially Talk Radio violates the same principle.
36 Awen // Oct 30, 2009 at 9:18 am
@ whitetrash,
Isn’t it ridiculous that an American president would so far demean himself and his Administration as to bicker with a talk radio host or TV news anchor? These are the squabbles of children: “I’ll take my dolls and go home! So there!”
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