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		<title>By: David Yeagley</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/10/11/yes-columbus-discovered-america/comment-page-1/#comment-19919</link>
		<dc:creator>David Yeagley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a fine piece:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&amp;aid=15650&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Myth of &quot;America.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;  See?  No one can say we&#039;re not &quot;fair and balanced.&quot;  

Actually, what that means is this:  you give lies the same status as truth.  That&#039;s &quot;fair and balanced.&quot;  Har, har!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a fine piece:  <a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&#038;aid=15650" rel="nofollow">The Myth of &#8220;America.&#8221;</a>  See?  No one can say we&#8217;re not &#8220;fair and balanced.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Actually, what that means is this:  you give lies the same status as truth.  That&#8217;s &#8220;fair and balanced.&#8221;  Har, har!</p>
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		<title>By: Walksthrough</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/10/11/yes-columbus-discovered-america/comment-page-1/#comment-19909</link>
		<dc:creator>Walksthrough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the Bible says that idols are &quot;nothings.&quot;  So, there is a realistic concept of nothing.

Doesn&#039;t Hinduism say all is an illusion but God, and all is God?

The tabernacle had curtains, and the holy of holies was separate within those curtains.  God &quot;sitteth in the heavens&quot;, and He is holy, that is, set apart from His creation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the Bible says that idols are &#8220;nothings.&#8221;  So, there is a realistic concept of nothing.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t Hinduism say all is an illusion but God, and all is God?</p>
<p>The tabernacle had curtains, and the holy of holies was separate within those curtains.  God &#8220;sitteth in the heavens&#8221;, and He is holy, that is, set apart from His creation.</p>
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		<title>By: David Yeagley</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/10/11/yes-columbus-discovered-america/comment-page-1/#comment-19908</link>
		<dc:creator>David Yeagley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fixed your links.  There&#039;s a trick to it.  I try to catch everyone&#039;s, when I can.  

Personally, I don&#039;t know if the earth is round or flat, spherical or planar, circular or bent.  I think reality is a three-dimensional illusion.  The heavens were spread out like a curtain, like a tent, so saith the scripture.  To me, that means reality has an edge.  The universe has a side.  On the other side, is the Creator.  There is no &quot;nothing.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fixed your links.  There&#8217;s a trick to it.  I try to catch everyone&#8217;s, when I can.  </p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t know if the earth is round or flat, spherical or planar, circular or bent.  I think reality is a three-dimensional illusion.  The heavens were spread out like a curtain, like a tent, so saith the scripture.  To me, that means reality has an edge.  The universe has a side.  On the other side, is the Creator.  There is no &#8220;nothing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Walksthrough</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/10/11/yes-columbus-discovered-america/comment-page-1/#comment-19907</link>
		<dc:creator>Walksthrough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, David.  I have no idea what is up with that last link, why it is spreading across the format like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, David.  I have no idea what is up with that last link, why it is spreading across the format like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Walksthrough</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/10/11/yes-columbus-discovered-america/comment-page-1/#comment-19906</link>
		<dc:creator>Walksthrough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, regarding circle and sphere and flat earths.  Thank you for your comments.

My partial point was, the scriptures taught creation, and the fact of that creation is that God created the heavens and the earth.  The earth is a sphere.  Isaiah 40:22 is emphasizing God as creator and how high above us He is.  I am not aware of what your religious persuasion or belief concerning the Bible is.  The Bible states that all scripture is inspired by God.  That means the Spirit of God inspired men to write the books.  The prophet Isaiah would not be describing a Columbus era-style flat earth here while emphasizing the highness of God over His creation.  God chose the use of this word, which can by no means be understood to mean something inferior to that which pagan minds later made use of God’s creation to rightly perceive that the earth is a sphere.  Jesus said even evil men can love their children, so pagans can also come to a right scientific conclusion.  But because God is the Creator and the Author of scripture, we can only follow behind His revelation.  And God’s people should have this advantage.  But when, as in the Dark Ages, the scriptures are scarce, and men assume authority over them, chances are, people will believe the earth is flat and The Origin Of The Species is holy writ.

If you or anyone is interested, here are a couple links to consider further.  That’s all I will add to the side of the point.  Thanks.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://bible.cc/isaiah/40-22.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Isaiah 40&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_the_Hebrew_word_Chuwg_mean_a_flat_circle_like_a_coin_or_a_sphere_Isaiah_C40_verse_22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Hebrew word &lt;em&gt;Chuwg&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, regarding circle and sphere and flat earths.  Thank you for your comments.</p>
<p>My partial point was, the scriptures taught creation, and the fact of that creation is that God created the heavens and the earth.  The earth is a sphere.  Isaiah 40:22 is emphasizing God as creator and how high above us He is.  I am not aware of what your religious persuasion or belief concerning the Bible is.  The Bible states that all scripture is inspired by God.  That means the Spirit of God inspired men to write the books.  The prophet Isaiah would not be describing a Columbus era-style flat earth here while emphasizing the highness of God over His creation.  God chose the use of this word, which can by no means be understood to mean something inferior to that which pagan minds later made use of God’s creation to rightly perceive that the earth is a sphere.  Jesus said even evil men can love their children, so pagans can also come to a right scientific conclusion.  But because God is the Creator and the Author of scripture, we can only follow behind His revelation.  And God’s people should have this advantage.  But when, as in the Dark Ages, the scriptures are scarce, and men assume authority over them, chances are, people will believe the earth is flat and The Origin Of The Species is holy writ.</p>
<p>If you or anyone is interested, here are a couple links to consider further.  That’s all I will add to the side of the point.  Thanks.</p>
<p><a href="http://bible.cc/isaiah/40-22.htm" rel="nofollow">Isaiah 40</a><br />
<a href="http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_the_Hebrew_word_Chuwg_mean_a_flat_circle_like_a_coin_or_a_sphere_Isaiah_C40_verse_22" rel="nofollow">The Hebrew word <em>Chuwg</em></a></p>
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		<title>By: David Yeagley</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Yeagley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is one of the better, brief accounts of the Columbus &#039;tours&#039; in the Bahamas and environs:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1033.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Christopher Columbus&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.ohwy.com/history%20pictures/maps/colvoyage.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is one of the better, brief accounts of the Columbus &#8216;tours&#8217; in the Bahamas and environs:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1033.html" rel="nofollow">Christopher Columbus</a></p>
<p><img src="http://www.ohwy.com/history%20pictures/maps/colvoyage.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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		<title>By: John Sandusky</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Sandusky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt the phrase of Isaiah 40:22, &quot;the circle of the earth&quot; means “sphere” indicating that the earth is a sphere.  This seems most unlikely since the Hebrew word gh means &quot;circle,&quot; and it seems very remote that it means &quot;sphere&quot; because of the context, and there is a better Hebrew word for &quot;sphere,&quot; rwd. In Isaiah 22:18 the word rwd is translated &quot;ball.&quot; If the LXX translators understood gh as &quot;sphere,&quot; they would have used the Greek word sfairoeides. Plugging the meaning of &quot;sphere&quot; into every passage that gh occurs will result in awkward interpretations. 

Isaiah 40:22, granted, is a controversial scripture, but I believe it is wrong to believe that it was Isaiah that first claimed the earth was round.

In fact the people of his time believed the earth was round and flat, this phrase (Isaiah 40:22) seems to refer to the shape the vaulted heavens above the earth from which the inhabitants look like grasshoppers. 

&lt;b&gt;22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.&lt;/b&gt;

A far cry from an ancient &quot;pagan Greek&quot; that actually theorized the circumference of the earth from shadows and got it correct within ten percent (give or take) of the actual circumference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt the phrase of Isaiah 40:22, &#8220;the circle of the earth&#8221; means “sphere” indicating that the earth is a sphere.  This seems most unlikely since the Hebrew word gh means &#8220;circle,&#8221; and it seems very remote that it means &#8220;sphere&#8221; because of the context, and there is a better Hebrew word for &#8220;sphere,&#8221; rwd. In Isaiah 22:18 the word rwd is translated &#8220;ball.&#8221; If the LXX translators understood gh as &#8220;sphere,&#8221; they would have used the Greek word sfairoeides. Plugging the meaning of &#8220;sphere&#8221; into every passage that gh occurs will result in awkward interpretations. </p>
<p>Isaiah 40:22, granted, is a controversial scripture, but I believe it is wrong to believe that it was Isaiah that first claimed the earth was round.</p>
<p>In fact the people of his time believed the earth was round and flat, this phrase (Isaiah 40:22) seems to refer to the shape the vaulted heavens above the earth from which the inhabitants look like grasshoppers. </p>
<p><b>22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.</b></p>
<p>A far cry from an ancient &#8220;pagan Greek&#8221; that actually theorized the circumference of the earth from shadows and got it correct within ten percent (give or take) of the actual circumference.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Yeagley</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Yeagley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the natural pride, the abuse of authority, the juvenile egocentricism of immature teachers.  In the classroom, the teacher is an emperor, or, a dictator.  Human nature can scarce resist the temptation to &quot;rule.&quot;  Teachers in the public school system, from the graduate seminar now down to the kindergarten class--luxuriate in their authority.  They also congratulate themselves on their wondrous influence and power.  

They&#039;ll never, ever have it anywhere else, nor influence any other human beings.  But, they have power in that classroom.  Not to teach, but to shape the soul of the student.  

It is a great evil, these teachers of egotism.  Nobody else is great but &lt;em&gt;them&lt;/em&gt;.  That&#039;s what they are basically teacher their &quot;students.&quot;   I think students are victims these days, in a way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the natural pride, the abuse of authority, the juvenile egocentricism of immature teachers.  In the classroom, the teacher is an emperor, or, a dictator.  Human nature can scarce resist the temptation to &#8220;rule.&#8221;  Teachers in the public school system, from the graduate seminar now down to the kindergarten class&#8211;luxuriate in their authority.  They also congratulate themselves on their wondrous influence and power.  </p>
<p>They&#8217;ll never, ever have it anywhere else, nor influence any other human beings.  But, they have power in that classroom.  Not to teach, but to shape the soul of the student.  </p>
<p>It is a great evil, these teachers of egotism.  Nobody else is great but <em>them</em>.  That&#8217;s what they are basically teacher their &#8220;students.&#8221;   I think students are victims these days, in a way.</p>
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		<title>By: Smile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because our school systems have become socialistic, liberating oneself from information that doesn&#039;t promote the agenda is popular among some.

They seem never to worry about what would happen with this trend when popularity is found elsewhere.  They are truly a Democracy and have others parroting this misinformation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because our school systems have become socialistic, liberating oneself from information that doesn&#8217;t promote the agenda is popular among some.</p>
<p>They seem never to worry about what would happen with this trend when popularity is found elsewhere.  They are truly a Democracy and have others parroting this misinformation.</p>
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		<title>By: David Yeagley</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Yeagley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But no really great &quot;discovery&quot; is the work of one man.  No matter what field.  It is the result of usually a generation or two.  It is a continuum.  This is true in all the sciences, but also in technology.  It is a human effort, a group effort, really.

But this does not distract or lesson the character of anyone involved.  I guess what I&#039;m impressed with is the flack, the opposition, the denigration, the hatred, which Columbus endured, as well as the great physical suffering he went through.  I&#039;ve taken a good look at his personal life.  I find it unusually inspiring.  

I think his aspiration was innocent.  Not ever famous man&#039;s is.  There are famous men who are unworthy of attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But no really great &#8220;discovery&#8221; is the work of one man.  No matter what field.  It is the result of usually a generation or two.  It is a continuum.  This is true in all the sciences, but also in technology.  It is a human effort, a group effort, really.</p>
<p>But this does not distract or lesson the character of anyone involved.  I guess what I&#8217;m impressed with is the flack, the opposition, the denigration, the hatred, which Columbus endured, as well as the great physical suffering he went through.  I&#8217;ve taken a good look at his personal life.  I find it unusually inspiring.  </p>
<p>I think his aspiration was innocent.  Not ever famous man&#8217;s is.  There are famous men who are unworthy of attention.</p>
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