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	<title>Comments on: Adrienne Mayor, Pox for Pox</title>
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		<title>By: The_Shadow</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/03/09/adrienne-mayor-pox-for-pox/comment-page-1/#comment-18480</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Shadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A virus isn&#039;t alive, more like renegade RNA or DNA, mere proteins, that&#039;s why they are tough to &quot;kill&quot;. The common cold is a good example of a virus, no cure for it either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A virus isn&#8217;t alive, more like renegade RNA or DNA, mere proteins, that&#8217;s why they are tough to &#8220;kill&#8221;. The common cold is a good example of a virus, no cure for it either.</p>
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		<title>By: Matilda Darquerider</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/03/09/adrienne-mayor-pox-for-pox/comment-page-1/#comment-18478</link>
		<dc:creator>Matilda Darquerider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur with Mr. Yeagley.  The reality of biological warfare you don&#039;t need elaborate devices or weapons.  All it takes is one person who is infected with some highly contagious disease.

Some diseases are infectious even during the incubation period so you could have someone spreading the agent who isn&#039;t yet symptomatic.  Early stages of some diseases exhibit flu-like or cold-like symptoms.  How much attention gets paid to someone with a runny nose or a cough?

To our knowledge the outbreaks of smallpox among many tribes of Indians have been unintentional through a sick individual who unwittingly came into contact with a tribal member.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur with Mr. Yeagley.  The reality of biological warfare you don&#8217;t need elaborate devices or weapons.  All it takes is one person who is infected with some highly contagious disease.</p>
<p>Some diseases are infectious even during the incubation period so you could have someone spreading the agent who isn&#8217;t yet symptomatic.  Early stages of some diseases exhibit flu-like or cold-like symptoms.  How much attention gets paid to someone with a runny nose or a cough?</p>
<p>To our knowledge the outbreaks of smallpox among many tribes of Indians have been unintentional through a sick individual who unwittingly came into contact with a tribal member.</p>
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		<title>By: David Yeagley</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/03/09/adrienne-mayor-pox-for-pox/comment-page-1/#comment-18477</link>
		<dc:creator>David Yeagley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things:

1. the smallpox virus is practically indestructable, so it appears.  We contain it through immunity, not through destroying it.  

2. smallpox got around, naturally.  the blanket theory poses a minimal contagion element, at best; but, all it would take is one person.  Never mind a dozen blankets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things:</p>
<p>1. the smallpox virus is practically indestructable, so it appears.  We contain it through immunity, not through destroying it.  </p>
<p>2. smallpox got around, naturally.  the blanket theory poses a minimal contagion element, at best; but, all it would take is one person.  Never mind a dozen blankets.</p>
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		<title>By: johnnymac</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnnymac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 02:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not this nonsense again! For what passed for medical science in the 18th. century could have been considered barely above witch-craft. No one in &#039;&#039;medical science&#039;&#039; had figured out anything about the pathology of virus(none were really known) the concept of &#039;&#039;vectors&#039;&#039;,etc. And what would this &#039;&#039;virus&#039;&#039; have been? Some sort of trained ogranism that only infected about certain racial group on command ? Why wouldn&#039;t those transporting these &#039;&#039;blankets&#039;&#039; been affected? Its pointlesss to even ask such questions of something so idiotic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not this nonsense again! For what passed for medical science in the 18th. century could have been considered barely above witch-craft. No one in &#8221;medical science&#8221; had figured out anything about the pathology of virus(none were really known) the concept of &#8221;vectors&#8221;,etc. And what would this &#8221;virus&#8221; have been? Some sort of trained ogranism that only infected about certain racial group on command ? Why wouldn&#8217;t those transporting these &#8221;blankets&#8221; been affected? Its pointlesss to even ask such questions of something so idiotic.</p>
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		<title>By: David Yeagley</title>
		<link>http://www.badeagle.com/2009/03/09/adrienne-mayor-pox-for-pox/comment-page-1/#comment-18475</link>
		<dc:creator>David Yeagley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention an interesting review, or better, discussion, of Mayor&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Greek Fire&lt;/em&gt; by Stewart Fleming.  It is an interesting article:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://130.91.80.97:591/PDFs/47-1/Fleming.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Biowar in Ancient Times&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, in &lt;em&gt;Book News &amp; Reviews&lt;/em&gt;, Vol. 47, No. 1.

Fleming mentions a written incident of 1759, in the Somerset village of Chelwood (England).  A local sexton was preparing a new grave and accidentally dug into the coffin of a man who had died of smallpox 30 years earlier.  A horrid stench emitted, and the attending villagers were all nauseated.  In three days, all but two of the people came down with smallpox, and only three survived to tell the story.  So says the written account of the story.

It is told in Horace Walpole&#039;s &lt;em&gt;British Traveller&lt;/em&gt;, of 1784.  I&#039;m sceptical.  The British always excelled at &quot;yellow news.&quot;  I would research the church records to varify this tale.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention an interesting review, or better, discussion, of Mayor&#8217;s <em>Greek Fire</em> by Stewart Fleming.  It is an interesting article:  <a href="http://130.91.80.97:591/PDFs/47-1/Fleming.pdf" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Biowar in Ancient Times&#8221;</a>, in <em>Book News &#038; Reviews</em>, Vol. 47, No. 1.</p>
<p>Fleming mentions a written incident of 1759, in the Somerset village of Chelwood (England).  A local sexton was preparing a new grave and accidentally dug into the coffin of a man who had died of smallpox 30 years earlier.  A horrid stench emitted, and the attending villagers were all nauseated.  In three days, all but two of the people came down with smallpox, and only three survived to tell the story.  So says the written account of the story.</p>
<p>It is told in Horace Walpole&#8217;s <em>British Traveller</em>, of 1784.  I&#8217;m sceptical.  The British always excelled at &#8220;yellow news.&#8221;  I would research the church records to varify this tale.</p>
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		<title>By: David Yeagley</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Yeagley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is indeed a marvelous story, smallpox in the Americas.  I don&#039;t know that I will ever be satisfied.  It is a story of biology, demography, and politics.  It is a story of invasion, conquest, and change.

Mayor&#039;s article, &quot;The Nessus Shirt&quot; is extraordinary.  It helps graps the whole picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is indeed a marvelous story, smallpox in the Americas.  I don&#8217;t know that I will ever be satisfied.  It is a story of biology, demography, and politics.  It is a story of invasion, conquest, and change.</p>
<p>Mayor&#8217;s article, &#8220;The Nessus Shirt&#8221; is extraordinary.  It helps graps the whole picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Matilda Darquerider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matilda Darquerider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Yeagley,
I&#039;ve got to thank you for your trouble on the issue of the smallpox blankets.  I did do some extensive searching for any historical documentation that would have lent some truth to the story, but it appears to be one of those urban legends.

The myth shouldn&#039;t detract the impact that smallpox has had on the North American population.  Like here in southwest Florida, the Spaniards couldn&#039;t defeat the Caloosa nation, but one little microbe did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Yeagley,<br />
I&#8217;ve got to thank you for your trouble on the issue of the smallpox blankets.  I did do some extensive searching for any historical documentation that would have lent some truth to the story, but it appears to be one of those urban legends.</p>
<p>The myth shouldn&#8217;t detract the impact that smallpox has had on the North American population.  Like here in southwest Florida, the Spaniards couldn&#8217;t defeat the Caloosa nation, but one little microbe did.</p>
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