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Lance Tahchawwickah and Rudy Yo Blood

by David Yeagley · January 31, 2007 · 35 Comments ·

The sole voice of validation, attempted validation, for Rudy Yo Blood (Youngblood) having any Indian blood in him at all, comes from Lance Tahchawwickah. Rudy, of course, was the star of the rather primitive (but naturally popular) movie by Mel Gibson, Apocalypto. Rudy told Gibson that he was Sioux, Cree, Yaqui, Comanche, whatever. Rudy was Mr. Indian, Mr. North American Indigenous. All Indian, all the time. Why, he could even dance.

Okay. Bad Eagle investigated all this. Why? Rudy didn’t look like he was Indian at all. He looked like a black hispanic, which is what he is. Bad Eagle posted considerable commentary on the story, offended Rudy’s circle of friends and promoters of course, but never heard a word from Rudy. And neither did his supporters contradict anything Bad Eagle reported. They merely attacked me, personally.

I first heard from Lance Tahchawwickah on December 24, 2006. He offered to straighten out misinformation about Rudy. He wrote again December 26, informing me that “Rudy Youngblood is in fact my brother. My father and mother took him in many years ago. He is family! So what he said is absolutely TRUE.” Lance justified the success of Rudy, and held him up as a role model. Lance also requested that everyone should respect the privacy of him and his family.

The comment Lance made about his father, Preston Tahchawwickah, is critical. “My father and mother took him (Rudy) in.” This is the direct confession that Rudy is no blood relation whatsoever to the Tahchawwickah family. Of course, what Lance means is that Preston had some kind of positive regard for Rudy, some kind of concern. It’s called, “Indian way.” It does mean alot, among Indians. But, considering Rudy’s age, this relationship simply could not have been that extensive or serious. It was a temporary thing. Rudy claimed the same type of relationship with a Cree family, the Slimjohns, (from whom Bad Eagle has also heard, January 18–who have not vouched for any Indian blood in Rudy). Rudy also claims it with an Oto family in Oklahoma. It becomes rather meaningless the way Rudy boasts, but it proved an effective manipulation, at least until this point.

Lance then went to Michelle R. Hall (“Shining Elk”) and offered the same implication–”Indian way” validation of Rudy. He did not, however, say the truth, as he had to me. (Michelle is the professional manager of Rudy). Michelle then posted Lance’s less than truthful statement on her blog, and that was to be the end of it. Since Lance went public, after asking me to keep things private, I therefore have to reveal the truer statements he made to me.

Lance, a real Indian, is one of Preston Tahchawwickah’s legally adopted children. This information comes from Bobbie, a sister of Preston’s. A blood son of Preston, Rodney, who lives in the Cache, OK area, knew nothing of his supposed “brother” Rudy. Rudy met the Tahchawwickah’s in the Dallas area. This is because Preston lived there. None the Tahchawwickah’s in Oklahoma knew anything about Rudy’s claim. Furthermore, there are Tahchawwickahs in the Dallas area that know nothing of Rudy–who have written Bad Eagle and said so. In fact, as recently as January 24, a personal letter from a Tahchawwickah thanked me for honoring their true family, and respecting their name. (I have not asked permission to release their names, but, I will if they allow.)

Nathan Tahchawwickah, for instance, knows nothing of Rudy. Nathan, a powerful football star for the Irving Tigers, is a real Tahchawwickah, and deserves to be recognized as a Comanche man, not Rudy. Nathan is a star linebacker, who recently was honored with the Tuff Tiger Award by Joe Barnett, Director of Athletics for the Irving Indpendent School Districts. (Irving is a northern suburb of Dallas. I have Comanche family there myself, half a dozen or so.) Barnett said, ” Thank you Nathan for your contribution to the athletic program and for representing Irving High School and the community of Irving in such a positive manner.” I’d say this represents real, legitimate accomplishment, far more worthy than playing in a movie.


Tiger linebacker coach Shay Fanning with Nathan Tahchawwickah and the
Tuff Tiger Award, January 20, 2007.

Unfortunately, Rudy was lauded in the January edition of The Comanche Nation News. Interviewed by Jolene Schonchin, Rudy is hailed as a Comanche, with “relatives on his Comanche side.” Rudy “gets his Comanche blood from his paternal side,” Ms. Schonchin says. Well, she has obviously researched nothing at all. Of course a lot of Comanche people, the younger set, and some kakus, were all excited to have a movie star visit the Complex. No one even thought he might not be Indian at all, of any kind. They’d rather be proud that a “Comanche” made a movie.

To make matters worse, Michelle R. Hall (“Shining Elk”) has posted (January 4) an alleged spoof of BM Davids, a travesty about me, a complete and libelous lie, from a July 28, 2006 post on a past site called “Bald Beagle.” The site was taken down in October, and is no longer available. (Good thing. It was full of homosexual pornography. I made many screen shots for evidence. I meantion this only to point out the character of BM Davids and those he apparently attempts to influece.)

Michelle posted a piece about me being bannished by the Comanche Nation. The piece is a complete spoof, with many false pieces of information, like, naming a man as chairman who wasn’t, and never has been, etc. Of course, Michelle would have no way of knowing any of this, and would never research it. It looks as if BM Davids (or someone else) has provided this past Bald Beagle post to Michelle, to watch her run with it, and make herself as foolish and libelous as he is. Poor Michelle! She is really being taken advantage of. It is easy to do, of course, since she has to defend Rudy as his manager. She is completely vulnerable to the truth. Alas, one faux pas leads to another. She is only getting in deeper. (By the way, I’ve been to at least two major General Council meetings of the Comanche Nation, to vote, since the July spoof. My name is certainly on the rolls. I couldn’t vote if it weren’t.)

So, what’s wrong with the truth? Why do some people delight in lies? Why do they try to perfect their lies as if their lies are actual truth? Why the intense effort to counterfeit? They seem to find life in lying. They love and crave pretense, as if it is a magic trick routine, a magic act, a piece of entertainment or something. This is pernicious, and misrepresentative of all Indians, it seems to me. These people are aggressive distortionists. BM Davids has denigrated the Comanche Nation in this, as has Michelle. They don’t see it that way, because they apparently have no respect for Indian people, at all. This is profound. This is what the behavior tends to indicate, anyway.

So, just to keep everyone informed, Rudy Nathaniel Jamal Gonzalez is, according to all available evidence, not one drop of American Indian blood. Obviously, there’s nothing wrong with that. What is offensive is the professional advantage he has procured by claiming he is Comanche. He has never spoken of his real mother, or real father. He has never defended them, or even identified them. He may have his reasons, but, this is not reason to claim Comanche blood, or any Indian blood, if you don’t have it. This is offensive. This says Indian blood is nothing. It’s yours for the claiming. Indian blood has become like the blood of Christ. Just claim it. It will save you. It’s yours for the asking. Blasphemous? Indeed.

Posted by David Yeagley · January 31, 2007 · 9:10 am CT · ·

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  • 1 comanchemoon // Jan 31, 2007 at 11:09 am   

    Yeagley,

    Try to think of him as a little brother instead of Yo.

    You seemed to have mellowed out a little.

    I still think he is Indian, I don’t care which Nation. (Comanche I think). I my scanner was working, I would put my sons’ Senior picture up besides Rudys and you would be amazed! Oh Well, he wouldn’t give me permission anyway.

    Maybe I shouldn’t say this, but around Indian Country(and not that its OK either) there are a lot of half brothers and sisters. People have relationships outside of marriage. I think it is better in this day and time, but in the past its been said that “You always know your mother, but your father?” You can never get the truth out of an orbiturary, everyone is your brother and sister, (real Indians can have up to 20 or more) not blood, but they don’t go into this detail, and two or three adopted parents and Grandparents.

    Its nice to have so many relations, but I hope historians aren’t going by the orbits to gather info for future reference! The same most likely happened in the records of the BIA, who’s to say not, they changed the names when they couldn’t pronouce them.

    To keep accurate records for you own family goes without saying. Don’t add to, because they were good to you, or leave anything out because you had hard feelings.

    There are a few people I would like to forget in my family, but they are who they are and they are related, so my children need to know.

    CM

  • 2 David Yeagley // Jan 31, 2007 at 11:12 am   

    Well, if Rudy has any Indian blood, he hasn’t not named it. “Adoption” doesn’t count. That’s the only kind he has claimed. He’s not related to Preston, or Slimjohn, or anyone else he’s said.

    I’m worried about Michelle, now. She’s being played like a fiddle.

  • 3 comanchemoon // Jan 31, 2007 at 11:51 am   

    Respects Nothing,

    Great piece.

    Of course, I can’t keep my mouth shut, so I entered a comment, for whats its worth.

    CM

  • 4 ecology // Jan 31, 2007 at 12:26 pm   

    exactly doc! he lied through his teeth to capitalize on it all. Thats the whole point! Lying is bad! But to many its just peachy and aok. Unbelievable. However if it was a whitey these same folk would have them lynched. or so it seems.

  • 5 Respects Nothing // Jan 31, 2007 at 12:45 pm   

    CM,

    I’ll go check it out. My comment is way to long to voice, however in summary, i agree and disagree.

  • 6 Nadine // Jan 31, 2007 at 1:10 pm   

    “Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive!” – Sir Walter Scott

  • 7 concha // Jan 31, 2007 at 1:49 pm   

    Rudy & Michelle,
    Do you see what a REAL Comanche man looks like?
    Handsome, dignified, masculine.

    Now why oh why didn’t you just say Cherokee like everybody else!
    p.s. Cherokees are very beautiful people too, but they can also be part black, white and Latino so that would have been a better lie for you so obviously you didn’t do your homework.
    I could see right through you Rudy when I first saw your picture because I am part AZTEC and like the Who song baby “I can see for miles…”

  • 8 comanchemoon // Jan 31, 2007 at 2:22 pm   

    I’ll try again,

    Maybe claiming Cherokee didn’t come to him because he is not lying!

    I not part anything but Comanche, so I can see Comanche in his mouth, teeth, eyes, nose. If he turns out not to be thats OK too, then he is a coyote, a trickster, or ACTOR!

    Put him in a suit and tie, of course he is as handsome any Indian male, but with no clothes(you know what I mean) is still quite attractive!

    I’m rooting for Rudy, but if I have to have pie in my face, make it Lemon Meringue please!

    CM

  • 9 concha // Jan 31, 2007 at 2:24 pm   

    Come on Mr. Rudy come on home to your people, the Mexicas, why are you ashamed of us?
    I bet you are AZTEC like me come on home to our ways–the land between the shadows and the moon –come back to Mother Tonatzin, our blood-thirsty vampire mama. I could use a strong young man like you to rub my feet ouch! they are full of corns and are stained with the white man’s shoe leather.
    I need someone to read me my bedtime stories and rock me back to sleep yeah baby come home to mama concha.

  • 10 David Yeagley // Jan 31, 2007 at 2:35 pm   

    There is a matter of people believing whatever they want to believe, facts or no. Some call this “freedom.” Freedom also means being free to lie. Some people have a special penchant for it. Others seem quite willing to believe a lie. That’s another aspect.

    I don’t know what Rudy’s reaons are for not identifying his parents, and for lying about having Comanche blood. It’s abundantly clear that he is lying. Be there no mistake about that. This is beyond question. He’s not Comanche. Not by Preston Tahchawwickah. That is a lie.

    Now, I have been told through private email that his real father is a very dark Mexican, (possibly black) and was in the military, but early abandoned the family. I was told this by two completely different sources (who wish to remain anonymous). One wasn’t so sure about the father being black, though.

    Others have said that Rudy’s mother was at least half black. That was the first information all over the net. But, one of my private sources, who seems quite honest and reliable, and who is not Indian, but knows Rudy very well, said that Rudy’s mother is not black.

    Point is, Rudy won’t even bother to talk about either his father or mother. This is pitiful, really. Very pitiful.

    But, lying about being a Tahchawwickah Comanche doesn’t solve Rudy’s problems at all. It is only creating a precarious future for himself.

  • 11 David Yeagley // Jan 31, 2007 at 2:55 pm   

    There are pathological liars, victimized liars, circumstancial liars, and sporting liars. Lying is something we all have to face, deal with, and hopefully avoid. But, it’s here. It’s part of the scene.

    Rudy and his group, the tiny anti-Yeagley internet group, seem to be a combination of all of the above. Probably Michelle is the most innocent, having been apparently trapped into it, without really knowing. But, she has yet to show any signs of remorse, regret, or changing course. The older one’s in the crowd include a truly pathological case.

    I’m talking about real lying here, not dramatization, journalism, or interpretation. I’m talking about actual, intentional, purposeful, malicious LYING. It does happen. It is part of the reality in which we all live, really.

  • 12 David Yeagley // Jan 31, 2007 at 2:58 pm   

    My last two comments were blocked, and I had to fish them out of the SPAM pile (which today has numbered over a thousand. It is a steady stream).

    I hope others are not experiencing the same. I haven’t seen anyone else’s in the SPAM pile.

    The site was even down earlier this morning. The host was down.

  • 13 ecology // Jan 31, 2007 at 3:45 pm   

    wow there is mire depth to this than I thought. A whole network. Concha you crazy funny! :-)

  • 14 David Yeagley // Jan 31, 2007 at 8:07 pm   

    Well, the story really isn’t over yet. We know Rudy cannot, or has not, demonstrated, in any way, any Indian blood, of any tribe.

    But that’s not really the part that continues. It’s the distortions of mind occurring in the tiny anti-Yeagley network.

    Their positions are so obviously unfounded, it is a wonder that they continue in them. The path seems to get darker, but they continue.

  • 15 nash // Jan 31, 2007 at 9:29 pm   

    What’s odd is that you might have some “drops” of Indian blood but you don’t act like it.

    The irony is that this guy might not have any but is accepted into a family.

    What’s wrong with this scenario?

  • 16 David Yeagley // Jan 31, 2007 at 10:14 pm   

    uh..you don’t have any information on which to base your statement, maybe?

    like, I come from a Comanche family.

    Doesn’t sound like you know very much here, Nash.

    There is an Indian custom. “Indian way,” about a care-giving situation. But this happened far to late in Rudy’s life to be that serious. And he didn’t use the name Tahchawwickah until over two years after Preston Tahchawwickah had died. And then, it was only because I was pressing he and his manager for an actual family connection of some kind.

    If you think that’s acting Indian, then maybe you’re not Indian. I don’t know. I think you have a misconception here.

    Adoption, Indian way, is one thing. Claiming blood is another. It’s called lying for professional advantage.

    Rudy told the Comanche News that “there were thousands of actors that tried out for the part.” Do you believe that? I don’t.

    Gibson did not use any Guild actors. It was wholly independent.

    What’s wrong with your picture is that you apparently don’t have any information. Least, you’re not showing that you have any.

  • 17 David Yeagley // Jan 31, 2007 at 10:29 pm   

    Wait. That answer was inappropriate. Let me try again.

    You want to bring up the perpetual issue, Who’s more Indian than whom? That’s endless, and usually useless.

    In honest circumstances, I never claim anything but the truth about me and my family background. Some people accept it, some don’t. No one denies that I am Indian, or who my family is. It goes back to Bad Eagle, and his father (also apparently names Bad Eagle.) Yes, many changes evoloved, historically, professionally, circumstancially, etc. I did not grow up near the Comanche Complex. To some, this is unforgivable. They will never accept me as one of them. Fine.

    Those that know Comanche history know that we were always in small separate groups. A lot of tribes have developed a post-reservation identity, which is certainly a historical one, but, is it just one among several, even if it might be regarded as the most important.

    Once you talk about being “Indian” in terms other than family or blood, then you’re into a different realm. If you believe such and such is what it means to be Indian, fine. Why would I argue? I may have a different idea, but, there is no point in arguing.

    Does that make more sense?

    What I find interesting is the number of Indian men that have come here to this site, and are too shy to identify themselves. Happens all the time. Is that being “Indian” to you? Or are you not Indian.

  • 18 ecology // Feb 1, 2007 at 11:50 am   

    I think the host of this site is half Comanche. He looks it too. So I say hes Indian. Now if he was 1/4 or less Id say he was not. Im not sure where this obsession with you comes from doc? The slander and lible. Its rather strange. Is it becuase you were raised somewhat “white”. Your right tho about the anti Yeagley crowd there. They are obsessed and full of hatred and rage so it seems to me anyway. Weird for sure. They ahvw a very nasty demeanor as well. They might be the ones who were either picked on in school or were the bullies. Something is in there in their phsycosis.

  • 19 R // Feb 1, 2007 at 12:02 pm   

    CM, you’re as bad as my wife. Right after we saw Apocalypto, instead of calling all her friends and family to talk about a movie involving Indians, I overheard her saying “this is a great movie to watch men’s buns”.

  • 20 comanchemoon // Feb 1, 2007 at 1:05 pm   

    R,

    Your right I’m bad, but I was commenting on the pictures the Doc has of Rudy with no shirt.
    (hey what about Concha, “hot”)

    I didn’t see the movie, I do not like violence if I can avoid it, though I can incite it and run!

    When I finially decided to see it, it was already gone from the area. I do plan to buy the DVD when it comes out. Someday I’ll have him sign it too, but now I will be embarrassed if I see his “buns”.

    CM

  • 21 comanchemoon // Feb 1, 2007 at 1:08 pm   

    Dr.,

    You blocked me again, this is the second time, I was replying to R.

    CM

  • 22 David Yeagley // Feb 1, 2007 at 1:22 pm   

    NO ONE IS BLOCKED. STOP ACCUSING ME OF BLOCKING ANYONE. I’ve explained it a hundred times. This software, MoveableType has controls, that can be set or adjusted. I get thousands of SPAM every few days. It is a huge chore to keep on top of this. People’s mail occsionally gets deleted in the garbage–including my own. I am blocked myself, occasionally. This is the software controls, not ME!!!

    So, try again!

  • 23 David Yeagley // Feb 1, 2007 at 1:26 pm   

    CM, you notified me in time, and I happened to be here. I fished your post out of 210 pieces of SPAM. When I get early notice, and I’m available, I can find the mail.

    If we don’t connect, the SPAM buries it all. It’s happened to me, as well.

    Nobody’s blocked from the Journal. Not you, not Michelle, not anyone.

    My only option is to require registration for the Journal, like I do for the Forums. However, I wanted the Journal to be open to the public…

  • 24 comanchemoon // Feb 1, 2007 at 2:10 pm   

    Its not nice to SCREAM,

    All I know is when I read the thingy, it said may have been something or word or such that prevented it from going thru, I tried several times two different reasons came up.

    Excuse me, but You just said you got “blocked” too.

    Go back to bed and get up on the other side!

    CM

  • 25 Nadine // Feb 1, 2007 at 2:23 pm   

    Lol, Doc, they know how to push your buttons, thus they do so. (;^D I betcha they’re having a good laugh b/c they got you to lose your temper. (:^D

    Remember, the person that keeps his/her head, while everybody else is losing theirs, is the winner. (:^) And usually you are the winner.

    As for Rudy, just keep on keepin’ on, and hammering home truth & honesty. While the sell-outs are blinded by stardom & tokens. They are weak & do nothing to secure the future of Indians. I would not want these type of people to be in charge of overseeing important Indian Affairs. Weakness breeds weakness.

  • 26 ecology // Feb 1, 2007 at 4:44 pm   

    Actually I have a better word for the anti-yeagley crew: perverse.

  • 27 Johnnymac // Feb 1, 2007 at 6:44 pm   

    Why do people find life in lying you ask Doc? Because it allows the liar to Peter Pan, they never have to grow up. Or face up to the truth that they are not what they claim. But lies don’t last forever. It takes too much effort to keep it all going and then, as Edgar Allen Poe put it best comes.. ”the waking of the reverler from his opium dream, the hideous dropping of the veil”.

  • 28 David Ross // Feb 4, 2007 at 11:15 pm   

    I know I’ve beaten this horse before, but it bears repeating -

    If he’s a Mexican, then he may well be Aztecan and that would classify him as a member of the same Uto-Aztecan family which also spawned the Comanche.

    But if he’s a dark skinned Mexican, then is he even Mexica? He volunteered for a Maya movie. To which nation does he really belong? Maya? Zoque? Zapotec? Tarascan (met one, once… he was homosexual… Gary Jennings was right about a thing or two)?

    Someone needs to run his genealogy and to test his mitochondrial DNA.

  • 29 F.SlimJohnSmith // Feb 6, 2007 at 2:55 pm   

    Mr.Yeagley Why are you bashing about Rudy? When I read your Comments you sound like your jealous of what Rudy does in his life! Are you? Are you mad that he got some where in his life and your still behind a computer talking bad about Rudy? Why don’t you get out and quit bashing him if you have something to say to him or me, email or come see me if YOU HAVE the BALLS!

  • 30 David Yeagley // Feb 7, 2007 at 4:11 pm   

    FSJS, if you have the brains, try to understand the issue.

    This is about Indian blood vs pretense. It isn’t about Rudy, me, or you.

    Also, once a Journal entry is archived, no one sees the new comments unless specifically visiting that entry. So, don’t worry, I doubt anyone has seen your useless remark.

    By the way, are you the SlimJohn that emailed me? If you are, then why don’t you talk about the details of Rudy’s sordid connection to the “Cree” family. What they say out here in OK is that he got involved with some girl up there, it went bad, and he left town. There are more details, but, why don’t you straighten all that out, if you know.

    I’m say, word about him is not good. He hasn’t made one ounce of effort to correct any of it. Indians know. Yes, there is a lot of gossip, but, there’s truth, too. It flows on the same vine.

    If you’re concerned, write about it. It’s just as much a part of his story as this fluke movie success, based on a false claim to be a member of every tribe in North America.

  • 31 Luna // Mar 28, 2007 at 6:57 am   

    I read Michelle’s response to you.
    It sounded like a child speaking.

  • 32 redcutie // Jun 21, 2007 at 8:48 pm   

    Damn, leave Rudy alone. Can’t we all just get along!

  • 33 Alma // Dec 12, 2007 at 5:51 pm   

    I don’t understand something and if I am wrong please somebody say something. I have a question for Mr David Yeagly. What people see when they look at you? Because the only thing that I see is a white dude with feathers in his head… Rudy Youngblood looks more indian than you does and let me tell you something you need to stop talking about other people and spend more time with your elder mother so call Comanche decendent. Maybe who was adopted when he was little was this man call badeagle(Davi Yeagly)man do something more constructive and let me tell you something every person born in the Americas in one way or another has to have Indian blood please thats why we call Americas. Indian Land ignorant! look your self in a mirror and then talk…

  • 34 me // Jan 29, 2008 at 3:06 pm   

    Mr. Yeagly sure likes to start drama, and he probably the main one trying to be buddy buddy with the comanches. I spit on the ground that man walks on cause not only is he trying to start stuff with the Tahchawwickah’s but also he makes the comanches look bad

  • 35 Charniece // Nov 19, 2008 at 2:41 pm   

    From a personal stand point on this discussion and so far on what I what I have read on this is this: This guy who writes these web journals is obviously one of those “full blood” indians who think its okay to say a person cant call themselves indian or even be a member to a specific origin of indian because they either dont look like they belong or have never lived with a tribe. And personally I think it is disgusting because it basically sounds like racism to me. Pure racism. And truthfully is Mr. Youngblood is in fact from the tribe he claims to be from then alot of people need to seriously stay out of his business and let the man enjoy his success. And even if he is lying then thats something he will have live with and pay for. Now I know in a different article he mentioned something about federal help through tribe association: Well I have news for you, most people who even uses any of that money has to set up ancersarry to that particular tribe and have a card stating that tribe is where they are from or reside. And personally I think this whole talk of who is indian and who is not is flat out stupid. I mean I have indian blood on both side of my family but I know narrowed minded people would never let me claim my full bloodline because I look more african american decent. So in truth its racism like I said before and people feel that only certain people are deserving of certain priviledges.

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